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If they lower interest rates again they're going to at best get another bubble...

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 08:02:28 AM EST
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I think the issue is that at the same time as all this fun stuff in the city... the "real economy"?/"Main Street?"/whatever is going into recession... and the knee jerk reaction to that is always monetary, not fiscal.
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 08:07:35 AM EST
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Housing Pain Gauge: Nearly 1 in 6 Owners 'Under Water'

The relentless slide in home prices has left nearly one in six U.S. homeowners owing more on a mortgage than the home is worth, raising the possibility of a rise in defaults -- the very misfortune that touched off the credit crisis last year.

The result of homeowners being "under water" is more pressure on an economy that is already in a downturn. No longer having equity in their homes makes people feel less rich and thus less inclined to shop at the mall.

(...)

About 75.5 million U.S. households own the homes they live in. After a housing slump that has pushed values down 30% in some areas, roughly 12 million households, or 16%, owe more than their homes are worth, according to Moody's Economy.com.




In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 08:13:02 AM EST
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Well, I think I'm about to get into one of my hysterical laugh moments (last was with the unforgettable 'it failed because Nancy Pelosi said unkind things about George Bush in her speech):

Judging by the French stock exchange, they launched a bubble that lasted...

3 hours and 30 minutes.

Is that ((gaah)) ? Or ((weee)) or something?

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 08:53:13 AM EST
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Will have to settle on [Cyrille's Jawdrop™ Technology] then.

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi
by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 08:55:26 AM EST
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Sorry, misread the graph.

The bubble lasted 90 minutes.

We are going for nanoseconds of confidence soon.

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 09:01:38 AM EST
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I love this place!

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 09:09:02 AM EST
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The bubbles get shorter and more frequent.

The sum of the lengths of the bubbles converges to a finite amount: the time to the phase transition.


A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 09:53:34 AM EST
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... pushing on a string. While high interest rates can restrain extension of credit ... the only question being how how ... low interest rates cannot force extension of credit.

In which circumstances only a fiscal stimulus can be effective.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 10:10:20 PM EST
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