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Ryanair boss sets sights on no-frills transatlantic flights with new airline | Business | The Guardian

Andrew Lobbenberg, analyst at Royal Bank of Scotland, warned that cheap fares between Europe and the US were available on traditional carriers such as British Airways and Air France-KLM, part-subsidised by the steep ticket prices levied on business customers.

"Long-haul fares are often quite cheap in economy - in part because they are subsidised by people in the front [of the aircraft]. It's not going to get consumers anything like as excited as low-cost short-haul," said Lobbenberg.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 10:52:34 AM EST
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It's time to start thinking outside the box for the airline industry. Why even have seats?

Why not stacked three level beds? You could get huge numbers of people into a single plane.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 12:07:25 PM EST
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Why not stacked three level beds?

Because you'd need good christian republicans patrolling then to make sure no rudeness happened that much closer to the sight of god.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 12:12:54 PM EST
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LOL

Thinking of it, you could save even more money by sharing bed with someone, just one ticket for two people!

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 12:14:34 PM EST
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Just pile people on top of each other and call it The Flying Cluster-Fuck™.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 03:52:56 PM EST
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That reminds me of this graffiti back in 1968:

"Aimez-vous les uns sur les autres"...

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char

by Melanchthon on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 05:14:29 PM EST
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I seriously think this is a good idea. With twice as many people on the plane, prices can be cut in half. That means a lot when your fuel bill starts inflating.

A lot of especially young people are ready to stand all kinds of discomforts to save some money on travelling.

For example, I once spent an entire night sleeping on the stone floor of Luton airport (no freaking benches!) waiting for a cheap flight to Marseille... just to save €50 on the ticket price.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 05:34:58 PM EST
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Three business-only airlines - Eos, Maxjet, and Silverjet - filed for bankruptcy earlier this year. So I'm not sure how profitable the business market really is. First Class must be profitable, but there's a natural limit on the number of customers who can afford it - and some of those who can will have their own private jets anyway.

Ryan is naturally aiming for the cattle class market, but I don't think it's going to work. Prices would have to be incredibly low - under £100 - to make people want to give up the small comforts they need on an extended flight.

It might be viable with the usual local subsidies scam, but what are the chances of that working now?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 12:13:47 PM EST
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of the cheap business class airline is not really that of the main airlines.

I don't take Air France because it's cheaper; I take it because I know I can take a flight two hours before or two hours later, or the next day instead of the one I booked.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 02:38:56 PM EST
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