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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 16th, 2008 at 03:30:28 PM EST
Obama starts to build a 'team of rivals' - Americas, World - The Independent
Leonard Doyle reports on the way that America's president-elect is set to follow Abraham Lincoln's example and recruit even his most bitter opponent

When Abraham Lincoln appointed his secretary of state, he picked his greatest opponent in the battle for the presidency, who just happened to be an able and popular senator from New York. Just like president-elect Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, in fact.

Mr Obama's greatest rival within his own Democratic Party for the White House travelled secretly to Chicago last week, and was all but offered a top job in his administration. She was first spied at the airport. Later, after Mr Obama's cavalcade left his anonymous steel and glass headquarters, a second convoy of Secret Service 4x4s was seen departing. As a former First Lady, Mrs Clinton never has to drive herself, but it was a giveaway for reporters camped outside the building.

The Obama camp, which almost never leaks, has made it clear that Mrs Clinton is in the running for the foreign policy slot or for some other top position in the next administration. Bringing her on board would be as clear an indication as any that Mr Obama intends to build an administration of political superstars for the challenges of the post-Bush era. One of Mr Obama's aides yesterday described him as "self-confident enough to want to send a message to the world about America and all that it can be - and Hillary Clinton as secretary of state would do that".

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 16th, 2008 at 03:34:32 PM EST
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One of Mr Obama's aides yesterday described him as "self-confident enough to want to send a message to the world about America and all that it can be

Oh c'mon! His choices as for now show very clearly that he is going to be another puppet.Did he choose ANYONE yet that is not from Clinton's team or worked for Clinton's administration???
Oh what a change!
by vbo on Sun Nov 16th, 2008 at 07:50:51 PM EST
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On the other hand, a very wise Democratic political operator once said, "It's better to have them inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in."

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Nov 17th, 2008 at 03:46:55 AM EST
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On the other hand, the nomination of Mona Sutphen as deputy chief of staff might be a good omen...

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Nov 17th, 2008 at 05:01:04 AM EST
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Just as a historical note (having read Team of Rivals earlier this year);
Lincoln included all of his primary election counter-candidates and others of high(er) esteem in the country as well;
Seward as Secretary of State,
Chase as Secretary of the Treasury,
Bates as Attorney General,
Stanton as War Department Secretary.

The first two were the candidates who couldn't get the required 50% to get the nomination. They were well regarded in their circles, but despised for real or imagined slights that made it impossible to get over 50%...again, not unlike Hillary. Lincoln had captured the imagination of the East Coast movers and shakers earlier with some speeches in the area and, the rest is history.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Mon Nov 17th, 2008 at 04:43:21 AM EST
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War on Taliban sparks refugee crisis - Times Online

Hundreds of thousands of once prosperous Pakistani villagers are stranded in freezing tented refugee camps after being compelled to leave home by their own forces in a ferocious battle against the Taliban along the Afghan border.

Yesterday 300,000 Pakistani men, women and children, many of them driven from farms in the Bajaur region, were sheltering in eight makeshift camps on the outskirts of their nearest city, Peshawar.

In one of the camps, Sheikh Yassin, home to 13,000 newly displaced Pakistanis, five children died of hypothermia on one night last week. They had been weakened by diarrhoea rife among children in the camp, which has no sanitation.

Aid officials had hoped to transfer some refugees to Jalozai, an area near Peshawar that was once an Afghan refugee camp, but on Friday they had to abandon their plans because of security concerns.

[Murdoch Alert]
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 16th, 2008 at 03:36:11 PM EST
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Ah where are now UN and EU to make a big deal of this, like they did on Kosovo??? 300 000 refugees, children dieing...where are pictures on CNN, BBC and around Europe's TVs every half of hour rising tensions and emotionally weakening public? Hypocrites!
by vbo on Sun Nov 16th, 2008 at 07:57:04 PM EST
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W.T.F.?

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Mon Nov 17th, 2008 at 05:03:27 AM EST
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It is so nice to be preemptively fighting for the fatherlandhomeland, the homeland, the homeland.

We are so warm and comfy now in the homeland, the homeland, the homeland, USA.

Daisycutters and Depleted Uranium for the homeland, the homeland, the homeland

Wars are won on CNN in the homeland, the homeland USA.

So proud I am of my tax dollars in the homeland, 3thefuckhundred thousand refugees for the homeland, we fight them there so they can't take our jobs here, a noun a verb 9/11 for the homeland, USA

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Mon Nov 17th, 2008 at 07:43:09 AM EST
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Security for any Afghan Taliban talks, Karzai says | TPM: News Pages | Talking Points Memo

KABUL, Nov 16 (Reuters) - Afghan President Hamid Karzai said on Sunday he would guarantee security for Taliban leader Mullah Mohammad Omar if he ever wanted to negotiate and said Western allies should remove him or leave if they disagreed with that.

With the Taliban insurgency spreading seven years after the hardline Islamists were forced from power, the possibility of talks with more moderate Taliban leaders is increasingly being considered, both in Afghanistan and among its allies.

The Afghan government says it is willing to talk to anyone who recognises the constitution.

A tentative first step towards talks was taken in September when a group of pro-government Afghan officials and former Taliban officials met in Saudi Arabia for discussions on how to end the conflict.

But the Taliban have rejected any suggestion of talks as long as foreign troops remain. Karzai, who visited the United States and Britain last week, said that Taliban condition was unacceptable.

However, Karzai said he would guarantee the safety of fugitive Taliban leader Mullah Omar if he ever wanted to talk peace.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Nov 16th, 2008 at 07:20:28 PM EST
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Hamid Karzai is a dead man walking...the only thing that keeps him alive is NATO military...as long as they stay there...He must feel it's not going to be for long and that's why he wants to negotiate.
by vbo on Sun Nov 16th, 2008 at 08:00:37 PM EST
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Pact, Approved in Iraq, Sets Time for U.S. Pullout - NYTimes.com

BAGHDAD -- Iraq's cabinet on Sunday overwhelmingly approved a proposed security agreement that calls for a full withdrawal of American forces from the country by the end of 2011. The cabinet's decision brings a final date for the departure of American troops a significant step closer after more than five and a half years of war.

The proposed pact must still be approved by Iraq's Parliament, in a vote scheduled to take place in a week. But leaders of some of the largest parliamentary blocs expressed confidence that with the backing of most Shiites and Kurds they had enough support to ensure its approval.

Twenty-seven of the 28 cabinet ministers who were present at the two-and-a-half-hour session voted in favor of the pact. Nine ministers were absent. The nearly unanimous vote was a victory for the dominant Shiite party and its Kurdish partners. Widespread Sunni opposition could doom the proposed pact even if it has the votes to pass, as it would call into question whether there was a true national consensus, which Shiite leaders consider essential.

The proposed agreement, which took nearly a year to negotiate with the United States, not only sets a date for American troop withdrawal, but puts new restrictions on American combat operations in Iraq starting Jan. 1 and requires an American military pullback from urban areas by June 30. Those hard dates reflect a significant concession by the departing Bush administration, which had been publicly averse to timetables.

Iraq also obtained a significant degree of jurisdiction in some cases over serious crimes committed by Americans who are off duty and not on bases.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Nov 17th, 2008 at 03:37:07 AM EST
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All US forces will leave by 2011, Baghdad cabinet agrees | World news | The Guardian

In a development that caught coalition officials by surprise, Iraq's cabinet yesterday ended one year of protracted negotiations by agreeing to a series of US amendments to draft documents. All but one cabinet minister present at the meeting committed to the agreement.

On Saturday the leading Shia cleric, Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani dropped his opposition to the deal, in a shift that some observers believe paved the way for a Shia bloc in the cabinet to vote in its favour.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Nov 17th, 2008 at 03:37:50 AM EST
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U.S. Ban on Masks Upsets Iraqi Interpreters - washingtonpost.com

BAGHDAD -- The U.S. military has barred Iraqi interpreters working with American troops in Baghdad from wearing ski masks to disguise themselves, prompting some to resign and others to bare their faces even though they fear it could get them killed.

Many interpreters employed by the U.S. government and Western companies in Iraq do everything they can to avoid being recognized on the job because extremists have tortured and killed Iraqis accused of collaborating with the enemy.

"The terps are the number one wanted here," said A.J., a 36-year-old military interpreter, using the shorthand for his profession. "More than the Americans. More than anyone."

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Many Iraqis, however, fear the relative calm won't last long. To them, ordering interpreters to work without masks suggests that some top U.S. officials are taking an unrealistically rosy view of the security situation in Baghdad, which remains a dangerous city.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Nov 17th, 2008 at 03:39:10 AM EST
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