I was side-tracked by the discussion that developed on tangent, as is wont, but went looking for it this evening to read it again.

So in that case:

Lasthorseman, if you're reading, you moved me deeply. The image you painted with you carrying your bee-stung daughter on your back and rushing through the wilderness will probably stay with me forever. As someone working frequently outdoors, away from civilisation I know what this means.

However it is difficult for me relate to the extra emotional depths you displayed - because I've not been in those situations. Just to say: wishing you strength.

In a series of exchanges between Gianne and myself about the nature of science and evidence, Gianne suggested that I had failed to accept evidence offered to me and also referred to LH's description of the "eight veils". I agreed that this was a description, and not evidence, and admitted that I could not accept this (taken from another source, but as I recall it the same as in LH's diary):

"The fifth veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the fifth veil to learn that the secret societies are so far advanced technologically that time travel and interstellar communications have no boundaries and controlling the actions of people is what their members do as offhandedly as we tell our children when they must go to bed. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the sixth veil.

The sixth veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the sixth veil where the dragons and lizards and aliens we thought were fictional monsters of childhood literature are real and are the controlling forces behind the secret societies. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without piercing the seventh veil.

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