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In my reading of Marxists, the goal of revolution is seizing control of the levers of the economy.
But this can be misleading.  Marx and Engels were rather hapless as actual revolutionaries and their goal of seizing control of the levers of the economy was very theoretical.  Lenin and Trotsky actually accomplished that goal and it is quite possible that Marx and Engels would have been horrified by the process.  Yet the identities of Marx and Lenin have been concatenated into "Marxist-Leninist," thereby discrediting the fine analysis and sociology of Marx with the deeds and methods of Lenin.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 09:17:42 PM EST
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Well, I guarded against going back to Marx by writing about Neo-Marxists in the last 30 years.

These are the people who counsel seizing control of state apparatuses. Nor would Soviet Russia count as a capitalist society that was seized.

According to people such as Althusser and several other Neo-Marxists, it's not that there are no other alternate systems. It's that capitalism is so thoroughly pervasive and entrenched that the world's whole way of life is gripped by it. In other words, alternative systems cannot displace it at the fundament. Look at China. From agrarian society and suddenly there's hypercapitalism there.

On Wall Street, the managers have been reading Karl Marx and passing around his books for the last decade or so. It's considered reading that will help you get ahead. The dunderheads used to read books like, "Who Moved my Cheese?", and now they've graduated to Marx. Which no doubt explains credit default swaps as well.

by Upstate NY on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 10:36:39 PM EST
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Well, I guarded against going back to Marx by writing about Neo-Marxists in the last 30 years.
Yet you never referred to Neo-Marxists.  Thanks for your clarification.  It makes the comment more meaningful.  I have little familiarity with the writings of the Neo-Marxists.

The dunderheads used to read books like, "Who Moved my Cheese?", and now they've graduated to Marx. Which no doubt explains credit default swaps as well.
LOL! You can lead them to Marx, but you can't specify what they will get out of him.  
A little learning is a dangerous thing.
Drink deep or touch not the Pyrian spring.
-----Alexander Pope


As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 10:57:41 PM EST
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