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Seeing how the political compass is calibrated, this almost makes you a fringe extrem neo-liberal lunatic. It considers a typical US democrat as middle of the left and middle of social libertarians.

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi
by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 05:35:05 AM EST
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"lunatic"

Can everyone just stop the name calling already? The political compass doesn't generate those labels.

by Nomad on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 06:01:45 AM EST
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OK, I should clarify that I do not by any mean reckon that Valentin IS a lunatic.
It was a way to express that the middle of the political compass had nothing to do with "middle". The compass is calibrated to hold John Kerry to be a flaming leftist (with all the caveats that even 2 dimensions are not enough to fully describe someone's views of course).

In order to emphasise that the political compass was strangely calibrated (as in a compass that would only have "North", "Norther" "West" and "Wester as directions), I deliberately used extreme words, without implying that they were actually justified, since the compass does not make anyone anything in actual life.

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 08:26:52 AM EST
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No offense taken. It's InWales suggestion, you should discuss that with her :)

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)
by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 12:05:03 PM EST
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The ET Political Compass would underline your point (to show it, Colman needs to bring it on-line again). All but one guy was in the bottom left quadrant, self-declared conservatives (Starvid, Martin, some friends of Jérôme) and the two undeclared neocons included; and some who both identify as, and are recognisably, centrist found themselves way to the left.

But, I am not sure US calibration alone can be the cause... especially considering their placement of British parties on their compass. There can be false assumptions on how people view the test questions. Behind many, there seems to be a naive leftist assumption of the universiality of right-wing views. Whereas, a conservative or even a moderate may fully endorse a high-flying idea -- as long as we are speaking about the in-group. What this naive leftist assumption sees as right-of-center view will only come forward against some appropiately antagonised outside group (immigrants, people with different-coloured skins, felons, welfare recipients, 'privileged' public workers).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 10:20:33 AM EST
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I took the test upon a suggestion from InWales, you should discuss its pertinence with her, I guess.
I am ready to take any other test or questioning to prove the reasonability of my views :)

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)
by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 12:07:07 PM EST
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The 'ET Political Compass' is a map of ET readers' Political Compass results, currently off-line (it was in a Wiki overloaded by spammers). Thus I am not at all against the test or your taking of it -- I am discussing the interpretation with Cyrille.

BTW? Cyrille, I don't remember if you took the test and where it placed you -- which would be interesting inasmuch as IIRC you're a MoDem/Bayrou supporter, and thus probably as close to the center as possible in a French political context.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 12:58:22 PM EST
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I had to look up IIRC but yes YDRC (You Do Recall Corectly). I'm actually a member, although I think I am late in renewing my subscribtion, how would I know, they never mentioned money, and I keep receiving the commission documents (haven't been able to produce anything myself of late though)...

I did take the test but did not then asked to be placed because I found it a caricature -I was so far to the left despite answering a straight centrist ticket (actually, when I was unsure of my opinion, I simply entered the MoDem one).

I remember being very close to Jérôme, somewhat more liberal in social terms and maybe a shade more conservative in economics, although I may have been slightly to the left in that one as well.
It made ET look like a group of crazy leftist extremists that found Pol Pot Reaganian and that's unfair when only half of us are ;-)

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 05:07:33 PM EST
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crazy leftist extremists that found Pol Pot Reaganian

Why, wasn't he? Same hostility to intellectuals, same abandonment of inner cities :-)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 05:54:20 PM EST
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His numbers:Economic Left/Right: -3.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.51

That places him about where Gandhi is--somewhat left-libertarian.

My own numbers:Economic Left/Right: -6.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.90

That places me between Mandela and the Dalai Lama but further towards the lower left corner. Almost all active political figures in "the west" are in the upper right quadrant, with Romano Prodi being the closest to the left-right axis.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 09:05:30 PM EST
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Some said the test is not well balanced. Or just blog isn't, compared to the population and their elect :)

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)
by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 09:11:46 PM EST
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Some said the test is not well balanced. Or just this blog isn't, compared to the population and their elect :)

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)
by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 09:12:05 PM EST
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