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I didn't say that absence of ideology constitutes an ideology.

I said that Realpolitik is hardly an absence of ideology.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 04:56:40 PM EST
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...and that pragmatism is mostly real-politik. But pragmatism, or realism, is the refuse of ideology.

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by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 05:04:22 PM EST
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I think perhaps you a more advised understanding of Realpolitik could be useful. :)
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 05:10:50 PM EST
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I wasn't discussing real-politik, but pragmatism. You said it's mostly real politik. Me, I don't think so. So I didnt deny real-politik being an ideology :) but pragmatism being so (which was your implicit statement).

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by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 05:41:57 PM EST
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What percentage of pragmatic political decisions aren't based on implicit realpolitik?
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 05:49:49 PM EST
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