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They have not been overturned, just like Newton's laws have not been. As long as you keep within the "normal" context, both the two genders and the Newton laws stand. You can leave fall an apple and a feather, and see if you care about Einstein's relativity theory :)

But that was not the point.
The point was that we accept or reject political or social statements based on factual data, and we craft measures pragmatically, not based on some ideological framing.
It is a matter of methodology.

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by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 05:02:59 PM EST
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In certain parts of America, normal means the Earth is flat, there were never any dinosaurs, and evolution is a myth.

The fact that you said two genders is somehow equated with Newton's laws shows me you're laboring under ideology. Clearly, science has presented facts that show there are more than two genders, and that the very concept of gender is constructed. There's really no debating this at this point since not only the biological evidence shows a significant portion of human beings do not fall into the male and female binary, but that some entire societies don't ascribe to the division either.

Which means these things are socially constructed, or as you put it, normative.

by Upstate NY on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 08:08:26 PM EST
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You may make a poll anywhere you like, not only flat-Earth America, and see if they see more than two genders.
Of course, a poll is not scientifical proof. Neither are Newton's laws, if you care to be rigorous.

Again, that wasn't the point Sarkozy made by mentioning the Yellow Sun. Hairsplitting when the thing is right in front of us.

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by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 08:24:52 PM EST
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Hairsplitting?

Try to look into the incidence of hermaphroditism.

The numbers are much greater than you apparently believe.

Like I said, a poll in Kansas yields the absolute truth that the world was created by God.

If that's not ideology, I don't know what is. And those who are certain there are only two genders are indeed also laboring under an ideology.

But, you'd be quite surprised about this: "Make a poll anywhere you like, see if they're are more than two genders..."

If I took that poll on a Native American reservation that's aware of traditions, if I took that poll in parts of the Dominican Republic, and elsewhere, the results would reveal that people believe there are more than two genders.

by Upstate NY on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 10:29:18 PM EST
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