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I've stayed my keyboard long enough. Isn't it worth thinking about the fact that there appear to be several people here who are upset in some way because of their perceptions - which to them are real, and thus the so called evidence that you call for is irrelevant to them, but apparently necessary for others - and that there might be fault on both sides?

Don't you think it might be better to take a lighter, more conciliatory tone? There are many things wrong with ET and many things right. ET is not one-size-fits-all. Accept diversity, me duck ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 05:36:35 PM EST
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Can I just say, that comment, coming from you ... I'm speechless!

Where do I send the flowers?

Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.

by poemless on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 05:52:17 PM EST
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You said it more precisely elsewhere. I'm better with the stuff that amuses me me me.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 06:14:56 PM EST
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upset in some way because of their perceptions - which to them are real, and thus the so called evidence that you call for is irrelevant to them

Even those in minority groups who sometiimes feel very offended recognise that claims that one feels offended do not settle matters:

House of Lords:

What I wondered is whether the Sikh community have got experience of reporting incidents to the police which they think constitute good reasons for bringing a case and for being confident that a conviction will occur and still finding that the police are not taking action, or that the police cannot get the cases past the Crown Prosecution Service.

  (Dr Singh) No, we do not have evidence of that

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While I say the blasphemy laws should go, they seem to be too dated, there should be something similar which allows freedom of discussion, real discussion, which is so important we should get behind the superficial niceness of dialogue to real discussion because a lot of things that we say are religious are really cultural things that should have gone years ago.
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 but the tests are the hurt it causes.

Lord Avebury

  527. You get differences in the perception of what could be --

  (Dr Singh) But then, against that we must have the second, it must be offensive. People could, of course, say that anything is offensive, you should not say this or you should not say that, but there should be a second test of the real damage done as well. It should not be just a cursory statement that "I feel offended by this". There should be a quantification of the damage that is alleged to have been caused.

http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/ld200203/ldselect/ldrelof/95/2112703.htm

ET is not one-size-fits-all. Accept diversity, me duck ;-)

I think that's what he's defending:


afew:

The community isn't organized around separate clubs with non-club-members excluded, and diarists don't get to choose who joins in the discussion. That's how this place has functioned up to now, and that's what people are, understandably enough, used to.




Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 at 06:18:10 PM EST
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