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Well, Kohler does ask if activation of the terms of the CDOs might be the cure, as someone will be getting lots of money.  Who would those people be?  If tons of treasuries come onto the market as part of the resolution, this would likely trash the market for new debt in the USA.  Individuals and institutions may be able to play this for profit using inverse ETFs, but everyone else is likely to be screwed big time, especially if it happens before Obama and the new Congress take office.  Could that be why Paulson is sitting on $400 billion of the TARP?

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer (argeezer a in a circle yahoo dot com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 03:08:08 PM EST
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I don't think it is enough money to trash the ability of the treasury to issue new debt (they will trash it all by themselves over the years, they have shown they know how to do it).

What it will achieve, is that some dots in the 20-30 yrs part of the yield curve will jump up a weird 0.1-0.5%, no one will be there to smooth it, so long-term rate indices will go up may be 0.2% for the first half of 2009.

And so new fixed-rate mortgage rates will go up by the same amount (also some 20% of ARM who thought they were tied to a secure, non volatile rate index). And that will further depress the equilibrium point of real estate prices by 5%. The market will just never adjust if the target keeps moving. Add in the recession... As real estate keeps tanking, banks will keep sinking, etc, and the spiral turns the recession into depression.

Pierre

by Pierre on Sat Nov 22nd, 2008 at 10:31:59 AM EST
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