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"They have distanced themselves from the thuggery skinheads violence and wrap up their agenda in apparently reasonable points of view, that are no longer overt with racial hatred, but it is implicit in the way they talk about issues."

Exactly, and it's difficult to prosecute (and prove) the implicit without making a process of intention (or building conspiration theory cases).

I'm quite curious about equal-pay legislation. I wonder how it was taylored, to allow women the right remuneration for their work, competence and responsibility, all in the business and market context, while not falling into egalitarianism and making men feel discriminated.

As to managers, my point was that discrimination is not always a voluntary, malicious act of pure ill will. There are the intolerant, and those worried about the business, I wonder how the right provisions can be made to distinguish the bad sheep from the rest (unless we assume all managers are intolerant).
So, with the best intentions, we'll just cut the gordian knot with a progressive activist law - except that laws are supposed to be precise, impartial and fair, not activist, educational, or cultural.
One more example about gender quota in France: parties being heavily fined if not presenting enough women candidates,  before the last elections they were making near desperate attempts to fill in the empty cases. Now I don't say that women don't feel attracted to politics (although it doesn't sound completely ansurd - men too begin to look quite discriminated in fields like teaching, medicine, or law, btw).
But in that particular case, all pretention of exigence has been abandoned, because the fine is something very real and quite painful.

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)

by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Thu Nov 6th, 2008 at 03:38:29 PM EST
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Don't have time before work to say much about our equal pay legislation but it exists to seek equal pay between men and women. So it works both ways - if a man has a female comparator doing the same job or work of equal value and he is getting paid less than her, then he could put in an equal pay claim.  The reality is that it is mostly women on the poorly paid end of the pay gap.

The equal pay legislation doesn't force employers to do much - it provides a route to making a claim if a person is not being paid fairly and it can be shown to be a gender pay gap.  Equal Pay Act applies only to gender and not disability, race etc even though pay gaps exist there too.

It also doesn't force employers to do equal pay audits.  It is supposed to encourage employers to pay fairly because the sanctions for losing a case are high but in practice we haven't seen much improvement.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 7th, 2008 at 03:42:18 AM EST
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