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As I see it you get these problems when you think of people as split into very broad political groups which are somehow magically homegenised. So you have 'women' and 'blacks' and 'gays' and 'men.' But there's really not a whole lot of nuance going on in any of these definitions, and certainly not in the politics around them.

This means you're left with a broad-brush politics of generalities which ignores individuality, almost by definition, and it also a similarly absolute notion of 'equality' to the table.

I think the only way to untangle the knot is to split things differently - into a politics of relationship, where relationship tone defines the experience.

Both political and personal relationships live on a spectrum with exploitation and authoritarian abuse at one extreme and mutually beneficial consideration and symbiosis at the other.

The dynamics of authoritarian abuse are well understood - they rely on dogma more than reality, on strict power hierarchies maintained by psychological coercion and physical and emotional violence, and on the creation of a 'good' in-group and a 'bad' out-group.

What's not so understood is that just being 'progressive' doesn't make authoritarianism impossible. Altermeyer found that after fundamenalists, feminists were the next most authoritarian group in his study.

What's also not so understood, because it happens so rarely, is what consideration and symbiosis would look like if they were considered the most important core political value in every area of life.

We don't have any historical experience of a society which works like that, so it's difficult to imagine. And while it would be naive to pretend that aggression and dominance fights are going to disappear altogether, having symbiosis as a core moral foundation might go some way to making them less influential and destructive than they are today.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Nov 9th, 2008 at 07:16:47 PM EST
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Broad-brush politics and broad political groups was exactly my point, I find there's a lot of incomplete analysis and putting these groups in competition when they're naturally not so.

Considering relationships instead sounds interesting, but I don't see how it can lead to policies without playing the big brother (or the central commitee). I tend to think the society of individuals is already split between politics of symbiosis (amounting sometimes to political correctness) and sheer individualism (in reality egocentrism). Again, sociologically, this sounds quite interesting.

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)

by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Sun Nov 9th, 2008 at 07:51:26 PM EST
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