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Today I ate donuts for the first time.

I don't know how the stuff I ate compares to a genuine American cop meal, but the combination of fat and chocolate/syrup was... strange.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 12:17:48 PM EST
You ... put syrup on your doughnuts?

Oh boy.

Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.

by poemless on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 12:32:08 PM EST
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Nnno, that was a bad attempt at naming the amorphous substance chocolate becomes when mixed with bits of sugar in liquid form and poured on the donut to freeze. E.g. something like:

Can't say I liked it... then again, comparing the thick fat stuff Budapest street vendors sell as "pizza" to the original Italian restaurants make, it may be that what Chief Wiggum got so fat on is actually much less fatty.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 12:43:01 PM EST
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I think the generic term would be "frosting."

They are rather sweet if you're not used to them.

by lychee on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 12:53:04 PM EST
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Yes - frosting.  Not all "American" donuts have frosting or filling.  I like the ones covered in powdered sugar or cinnamon sugar.  They are very dense, cake-like.  They are good with milk, and I eat them when I am sick.  I don't know why.  They've no nutritional value, but I crave them when I am sick.  I also like the kind filled with custard and covered in chocolate.  They're basically a very low-end eclair.  mmmm...  custard...

Of course, I will take a croissant over a donut any time.  And after the elections, I could happily never see another box of Dunkin Donuts (worst crap for food offenders ever) for the rest of my life.

Home-made donuts are good.  I guess I am surprised, because my mom made home-made donuts when I was a kid, and when I went to Russia, lo and behold, they made identical donuts there.  I just assumed everyone ate donuts!  lol.

Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.

by poemless on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 01:02:55 PM EST
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Animal fat and sugar can be helpful when you are sick. Nutrition isn't everything.

Depends in what way you are sick. But I am an advocate of the idea that in unusual circumstances (like being sick) then listen to your body, because it knows.

I am a war puritan child. There was no sugar when I was a kid. Thus my behaviour never became disordered ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 01:14:31 PM EST
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Ive been cured by v mild diabetes. Almost never eat anything sweet. I can't cope with raw sugar rushes so avoid such things. I can only eat a doughnut if I can intercept the maker and stop them rolling it in the sugar.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 01:48:55 PM EST
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I was always wary of salt. I would always cook and put out the Maldon Sea Salt for people to adjust my creation to their own taste.

But then I had all these routine tests and discovered I was a bit short in the salt department. So I've had a packet of 'Kartano' (Manor) kettle-cooked crisps every Friday and really enjoyed it ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:27:47 PM EST
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They have "artisinal" kettle cooked crisps over here. I like it when they say hand-made or hand cooked; does that mean that somebody took each crisp and dunked it in the hot fat with their bare hand ? Or do we mean a human hand pressed the switch that lowered several tons of machined potato into a cauldron of boiling oil ?

These things are never clear

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:33:22 PM EST
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I liked the idea that Pringles escaped some court case or other, because their industrial chips are not made of potato as such, but some kind of starchy 'massa' unrelated to potato.

Marketing...Oh, I am going to hell and I love the thought of it.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:40:39 PM EST
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Back during the mercifully short period when I was pretending to be an engineer, we were shown a project which counted fruit distributions in fruit salad. (Really - people were being paid good money to consult on this.)

Some of the fruit is bleached. For other strategic fruit marketing destinations, such as pie and doughnut fillings, it may also be pulped and reconstituted into square-ised pseudo-cube lumps.

The natural colour of the bright red cherries in tinned fruit salad was zombie-grey. They only became lipstick red after they'd been marinated in colouring for a few hours.

Things may have changed now, but I'd guess that a lot of what comes out of food processing factories is still rather disturbing in its naked state.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 03:02:21 PM EST
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Breakfast Oatmeal comes with several types of dried "fruit" including apple,  "peach," "strawberry" etc.  But neither strawberries nor peaches would hold up for the process while apples would do so just fine.  So they take apple chips, dye them red or yellow and add artificial flavors that make them taste remarkably like peach or strawberries. My palate cannot tell the difference.  The clue is on the ingredient list.  Fortunately I am quite satisfied with apple and cinnamon as my standard fare.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 09:18:18 PM EST
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My first job after graduate school, was as assistant donut baker at the Eagle Bakery in Tuscon Arizona in the summer of 1966, so I got to learn all about donuts.  They come in two basic varieties: raised donuts and cake donuts.

Raised donuts are made from dough.  My challenge was learning how, in one week, to prepare a 20 gallon tub of yeast based dough, let it rise, roll it out, cut it into  donuts and fry them in hot oil.  This was done in a rectangular pan about 2'x 3'x 1'deep containing hot cooking oil.  Into that was placed a "flipper" which was a steel device with a series of vertical blades attached to a handle with which one could, at once, turn over all of the donughts in the pan.

While the dough was rising, I made the cake donuts, my favorite.  They were made from a cake batter with baking soda as a leavening agent.  We had a container on an articulated arm that could be moved over the fry pan.  I mixed the batter and poured it into the container.  The container had a crank handle which, when turned would drop a ring of cake batter into the fry pan.  This arrangement allowed me to drop rings  quickly into the pan.  This was done without using the flipper.  As the cake donuts cooked and needed turning, I would use a wooden stick to flip them over and then to extract them.

While the donuts were still warm some would be placed alternatively on each side in various pans containing sugar or sugar and cinnamon.  Alternatively there were warm pans of various icings which came from five gallon containers.  I would grab two donuts, dip them in the icing and then set them on a drying tray.

We had another machine that was used for jelly filled donuts.  It had two hollow tubes about 3/8" diameter that tapered down at the ends to the 1/4" inner diameter.  These were the terminations of a jelly container into which various flavors of jelley filling would be placed.  There was a foot switch which, when placed would dispense a set amount of jelley.  Grab two donuts, slide them over the tubes and press the foot switch, repeat as required.

My only real mishap was when I lost my grip on one of the handles of the flipper while extracting it from the fry pan and it slipped back in, sloshing hot oil over my abdomen and hands.  Fortunately quick action by more experienced bakers led to getting all affected skin quickly out of danger and cooled off by water.  I only suffered first degree burns and, while allowed to leave early, was back at work the next night.

The only real perk was that, as a baker, I was allowed to take home a loaf of my choice, or its equivalent,  each night.  I developed an appreciation for Rye, Pumpernickel, Khala and other specialty breads that remains.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 01:43:21 PM EST
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Fascinating! And I mean that most sincerely ;-)

Always ask the person that stands by the machine about how to make it better...

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 01:58:18 PM EST
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Good grief! Obesity virginity!

Some close friends of mine market  this brand

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 12:42:57 PM EST
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So you market it, too? ;-)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 12:43:49 PM EST
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I do NOT!

a) I do not market 'consumer' products (though I did in the 80's)

b) I use the' Ogilvie method'. If you wouldn't use the product or service yourself, then don't market it.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 12:48:21 PM EST
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By "marketing" I meant giving the link.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 01:27:01 PM EST
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Aaah - that is much more nuanced...

The thing is, that by expressing an interest in a phenomenon, are you supporting it? ;-) i.e by making it visible, are you complicit? Well, unfortunately, by being born human, we are all complicit.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:12:55 PM EST
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So that brand is even a phenomenon? Smart, very smart viral marketing ;-)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:16:05 PM EST
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I would agree with you if I was getting a cut ;-)

But all effective marketing is perceptually 'phenomenal' with the target audience. It doesn't work otherwise.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:23:00 PM EST
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Also, I thought doughnuts, donuts, whatever, were rather universal.  They vary by culture, but most I've known have some version of a sugary fired doughy treat.

You've never had ponchiki, pączki, gogoşi...?  Gah.  Leave it to Germany to name a food "Krapfen."

Anyway, I can't believe you've never had a donut.

Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.

by poemless on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 12:48:11 PM EST
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Yeah, but if you put jelly in 'em you they're called a Kennedy.

Or something similar.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 01:15:36 PM EST
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Heh... you caught me.

Looking at the variety and pictures in Wiki, I recognise the stuff known as Krapfen in South, Pfannkuchen in East and Berliner in Northwestern German. Something like that is sold in Budapest since the middle of the nineties -- and when I looked it up in a dictionary, I found my bécsi fánk translates to "Viennese doughnut"...

Though the dough tastes similar, and "Viennese doughnut" also combines fat and sweet, for lack of hole and frosting, I failed to make the connection. "Viennese doughnut", is like what you describe (and, now I notice, like the second donut on the very picture I posted...): thin powder sugar on top, and maybe filled with vanilla or chocolate pudding. (Can't say I am too high on that, either, but less strange than with the frosting.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 01:46:01 PM EST
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I note that the Hungarian equivalent of doughnut as per my dictionary, fánk, when applied with qualifiers other than "Viennese", look (and taste) totally different.

csörögefánk ( = c. clinking doughnut):

rózsafánk ( = rose doughnut):

képviselőfánk ( = [parliamentary] representative's doughnut):



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:06:53 PM EST
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Oh, the top kind can be found in different French regions under different names. In the South-West they call them oreillettes.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:30:10 PM EST
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The rose doughnuts look similar to glazed doughnuts in the U.S., except instead of powdered/icing sugar on top, they're dipped in a sugar glaze, with a slightly less intricate cut "pattern." (Those were my favorite, but I haven't wanted to eat them for the past few years. My tolerance for sugary things has lessened over time. I don't know how I was ever able to eat the Halloween candy I would get as a kid all in a couple of days-- eek.)
by lychee on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:44:14 PM EST
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Oh, I just realized that was jam or jelly in the middle of those. None of that in glazed doughnuts here....
by lychee on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:46:11 PM EST
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"parliamentary representative's doughnut"

LOL.

We call it a cream puff or profiterole.

Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.

by poemless on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:40:02 PM EST
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DoDonut.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:11:04 PM EST
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Are you saying I am nuts!?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:14:38 PM EST
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Well, you would know... ;)
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:31:24 PM EST
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You hang out with us, don't you? <ducks, runs>
by lychee on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 03:08:55 PM EST
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Did you have it with a cup of coffee (black) the strength of industrial cleaner?   Because if you didn't, you aren't approaching a genuine cop meal. :)
by Maryb2004 on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 12:59:10 PM EST
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Disagree.  American coffee is the weakest, worst in the world.  Though I won't debate it tastes like industrial cleaner.  

Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.
by poemless on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 01:04:35 PM EST
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It is no problem to offer endless refills when you serve coloured water. I thought yanqui coffee to be the worst I have ever tasted. The best was at Copacabana beach - 2 centiliters in a gold quasi-tasse that had your hand quivering just paying for it....

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 01:18:04 PM EST
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American coffee tastes like diluted industrial cleaner...

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:06:13 PM EST
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Try English.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:20:14 PM EST
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{reaches into back pocket for well-worn gripe..}

You think the english do bad coffee. Can I ask about the calculated insult presented by the rest of the europe to the english as tea ? Why is that the major drinkers of tea are the english, but in most of the only tea available is german ? German !!?? Have any of you tasted german tea ? Of course not, nobody drinks it, not even the germans. It's not meant to be drunk.  It's just a joke brand made in a sawdust factory for europe to give to us as a way of saying "ferk off and take your sausages with you"

Seriously in Paris. Paris, now famously a couple of hours from London by jet propelled french railways, doesn't do english tea. Now I'm sorry, but that's got to be deliberate policy set down by government.

No wonder all brits carry PG Tips teabags around with them.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:41:36 PM EST
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Heh. I got PG Tips bags here from the Pakistani store one block down. They're even 50 percent sustainable now.

As to why, I don't know. The Dutch make the best cocoa, and also sell the most. I guess the English were never much for producing and selling stuff to the mainland, that queer market of 400 million people that uses these strange measures.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:52:26 PM EST
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It's more that the British seem to have a genetic defect which prevents them appreciating high quality tea.

They'll drink bark-shavings and lawn-clippings like PG Tips and like it.

It took me nine months of dedicated research, trying everything from local supermarket slop to oh-so-little-finger-posh Knightsbridge exclusives, to find a breakfast tea that was acceptable to a somewhat more discriminating palette.

The best tea I ever had was in a slightly arty cafe in Barcelona.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 03:09:54 PM EST
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I have to reply. Admittedly the choice of teas is restricted in Finland. PG Tips in 'pyramid' tea-bags can be found in the Indian, African, Arab ethnic stores on Hämeentie. The reason being that it is a workers cup of tea - a strong brew - not some effete Wiltshire sommelier's idea of tea drunk with a finger toward ceiling cat.

Tea is relative. And compared to the ubiquitous Finnish Liptons, anything is an improvement. But spare a thought for your colonial brothers. PG is where it at.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 03:18:07 PM EST
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Well - the problem with PG is that it's not nearly strong enough.

Two effete Wiltshire sommelier's tea bags steeped for half an hour should put most people on hyper for the rest of the day.

That's why I drink it, anyway. That and I quite like the taste, too.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 03:21:00 PM EST
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apropos several comments this evening:

"There's one thing in this whole wide world,
i sure would like to see,
that's when that little love of mine,
dips her donut in my tea."

The Band



"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 04:15:09 PM EST
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BTW I had some Argentinian tea once, sucked thru a silver 'straw' like the gauchos love it. It scared the bejesus out of me.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 04:32:20 PM EST
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It's not tea, it's Mate. They sip it in the south of Brazil, too.

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 04:38:41 PM EST
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Mate has certain similarities with tea, especially, green tea. It's closer to tea than, for instance, Coke - in spite of the caffeine.

But we use multi-lensed POVs here. Are we talking cultural, chemical, physiological or semantical? To describe something as 'tea' is merely a limitation upon categorization. 8 -)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 05:37:31 PM EST
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There tends to be good tea in little boxes in the more extensive Indian corner shops...

Call me biased, but the best tea I ever had was in Darjeeling.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 03:18:38 PM EST
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Yes, I used to like Darjeeling a lot untilsomething happened to my taste buds nd I suddenly wanted great big tannin hits.

Question is, what sort of Darjeeling ? single estate ? Blend (consistent) soth facing, north facing. Believe me, go to Harrods food hall and you can buy such diversity and they're very interesting (s facing slightly more floral - n facing more body and tweak of bitterness)

But I moved towards Assam hits for everyday drinking. My perfect breakfast tea is Orange Pekoe/Keemun tea mixed with Lasang suchong and left to brew for about 20 - 30 minutes. That's a wake up call.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 04:06:40 PM EST
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Tannin be where it at. That's why I love my red wine. I need that dose.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 04:33:48 PM EST
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Who'd have thought it? Exposed to opium, heroin, THC in all forms, coke, mushrooms and things speedy - I get hooked on tannin....

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 04:35:41 PM EST
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<ducks> You're quite right about tea. Here they think it's a bag of perfumed hay dipped in a cup of hot water.

<raises head above parapet> I used to get decent tea from Marks & Spencer's Food Hall, but then they decided to close all their foreign operations so that was shot. Recently it's become easier to get direct imports from England in the supermarkets, Typhoo or PG or Taylor's of Harrogate. The thing is it must be packed in England and not have a word of French on the pack.

Just like there shouldn't be a word of English on the coffee... <ducks again>

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 03:06:42 PM EST
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teabags are the lowest quality form of tea. Really. It's sawdust.

With that, I'm off to Dunedin.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 03:10:21 PM EST
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elitist ;-p

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 03:18:53 PM EST
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American coffee is bad.  English coffee is liquefied evil.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 04:03:56 PM EST
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Hah. Someone who understands.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 04:11:29 PM EST
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I always mix grounds of soft South American or sometimes African (50/50), with tart arabica.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 04:37:43 PM EST
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Try cake doughnuts
by paving on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 03:04:19 PM EST
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Donuts are the food served at the top of Pikes Peak. When you get off the cog railroad you brave the 100 kph wind and -10 C temperature and struggle breathlessly to the shop/terminal building. Inside you can buy touristical trinkets, coffee, hot chocolate, and fresh donuts.

They are disgusting. They're cake-style, but do not have much shape, and taste of grease and sugar. I suspect that they are served because a deep fat fryer is a cooking tool that still works at 4300 meters altitude. However, they do provide the calories that your body is searching for--especially if you're one of the crazies who instead of taking the train or road has decided to hike.

by asdf on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 07:05:55 PM EST
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Donuts are amazing and wonderful.  I love donuts.  Then again, I grew up in the Donut Capital of the USA, Los Angeles.

It's odd, really.  It's not part of the image at all.  But it's true.  LA has tons and tons of donut stores, mostly little independent places.  They often have distinctly different styles, and little variations or specialty donuts.  One that I often went to near my old house, Star 999 Donuts, was run by Koreans, and they but blueberries in almost all their glazes and frostings, and in several of their batters.  Another, USA donuts, was Armenian, I think, and had this unusual volcano-like donut.  It was like a conical buttermilk bar, with a dollop of jelly filling at the top.  I still love those things.

People who move to LA comment have made puzzled comments about the ubiquity of the donut stores, as it's just not something one expects.  I, on the other hand, was shocked by the lack thereof when I moved to Michigan.  Where are all the donut stores, I wondered?  I was further demoralized by the fact that the only donuts available widely were Tim Hortons and Dunkin Donuts.  Tim Hortons seems to focus on cremes and filled donuts, of which I'm not a huge fan, and Dunkin Donuts is just kind of average in everything, with a focus on mediocre novelties.

As a result of my residence in donut paradise, I never got the Krispy Kreme thing.  They're decent glazed cake donuts, yeah, but so what?  This was not helped by the fact that they use a touch of maple syrup in their frosting, enough that it carries the awful bitter metal aftertaste that all maple gives me.

Recently, Donut Plant from New York has become popular with more upscale places for their interestingly flavored cake donuts.  Starbucks carries their donuts.  They know how to make good frostings and glazes, I'll give them that, but they flub the most basic part, the cake.  Far too oily, dense, and heavy.  However, they are the best donuts available in Japan. :-(

by Zwackus on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 07:11:01 PM EST
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The original dunkin donuts, the odd-shaped cake donuts with the "handle" and a slightly cinnamon taste, are my favorites. Unfortunately the franchise can apparently only make them correctly in Massachusetts, as the three DD shops here in Colorado Springs sell something that is completely wrong...
by asdf on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 07:13:47 PM EST
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