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Ah, so this may have been a Pelosi-Emanuel operation.

The Blue Dogs are really pissed.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 01:06:35 PM EST
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Well, the vote was 137 to 122.  It is a good indication of the balance of sentiment in the Democratic Caucus regarding Obama's agenda.  It the way is made straight in the committees Democrats could be exposed to roll call votes on the House Floor if there is division.  With 58 in the Senate Reid should have a lot of room to maneuver.  The auguries are favorable.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:41:52 PM EST
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The Clockwork Orange is suggesting that Waxman swung it because some scheduling subtleties meant that likely anti-Waxmanites weren't yet qualified to vote.

Which may even be true, but it's a smooth micro-coup, even so.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:53:19 PM EST
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Can't be true, because I think he received more than half the votes (137/~260) of the caucus for the incoming Congress.

Waxman was smart about the campaign for it.  While Dingell was busy holding press conferences, Waxman was keeping his mouth shut and lining up votes behind the scenes.  The Hill staffers say he had Pelosi's backing, and I suspect there was some arm-twisting from the Obama camp, given that Waxman's agenda lines up more than Dingell's with Obama's platform and the fact that one of Waxman's long-time aides is now working for Obama.

The Blue Dogs, who would be the anti-Waxman crowd, didn't do terribly well in the election, especially compared with the Progressives and the New Dems.

On the whole, this is consistent with the movement in the House, which has generally been leftward since the election.  The House also doesn't have issues like the filibuster to deal with, anyway, so it's going to be easier to get things through.

It's the Senate that's almost completely dysfunctional.  But there are a few factors working in our favor there.  We've probably got Arlen Specter's vote on key issues (probably health care, definitely Employee Free Choice), since Pennsylvania went big for Obama and he's in danger of losing his seat in two years (polling at only 40%).  We can also probably squeeze another vote or two out of Maine, and I'm sure there are a couple others.

So there's an annoying but still reasonably clear path to 60, even if things don't come through for Franken and/or Martin.  And the fact that the Republicans are more vulnerable two years from now in the Senate than the Dems should be helpful.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 03:53:50 PM EST
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Can't be true, because I think he received more than half the votes (137/~260)...
John Broder reported 137/122 in the NYT article cited above.  He could be wrong, but a lot of the new guys could have been lost or distracted or persuaded with favorable treatment regarding committee assignments.  Perhaps some of the potential Dingle supporters were induced not to vote or to miss the caucus. I don't know.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 09:09:44 PM EST
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