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American coffee tastes like diluted industrial cleaner...

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:06:13 PM EST
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Try English.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:20:14 PM EST
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{reaches into back pocket for well-worn gripe..}

You think the english do bad coffee. Can I ask about the calculated insult presented by the rest of the europe to the english as tea ? Why is that the major drinkers of tea are the english, but in most of the only tea available is german ? German !!?? Have any of you tasted german tea ? Of course not, nobody drinks it, not even the germans. It's not meant to be drunk.  It's just a joke brand made in a sawdust factory for europe to give to us as a way of saying "ferk off and take your sausages with you"

Seriously in Paris. Paris, now famously a couple of hours from London by jet propelled french railways, doesn't do english tea. Now I'm sorry, but that's got to be deliberate policy set down by government.

No wonder all brits carry PG Tips teabags around with them.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:41:36 PM EST
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Heh. I got PG Tips bags here from the Pakistani store one block down. They're even 50 percent sustainable now.

As to why, I don't know. The Dutch make the best cocoa, and also sell the most. I guess the English were never much for producing and selling stuff to the mainland, that queer market of 400 million people that uses these strange measures.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:52:26 PM EST
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It's more that the British seem to have a genetic defect which prevents them appreciating high quality tea.

They'll drink bark-shavings and lawn-clippings like PG Tips and like it.

It took me nine months of dedicated research, trying everything from local supermarket slop to oh-so-little-finger-posh Knightsbridge exclusives, to find a breakfast tea that was acceptable to a somewhat more discriminating palette.

The best tea I ever had was in a slightly arty cafe in Barcelona.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 03:09:54 PM EST
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I have to reply. Admittedly the choice of teas is restricted in Finland. PG Tips in 'pyramid' tea-bags can be found in the Indian, African, Arab ethnic stores on Hämeentie. The reason being that it is a workers cup of tea - a strong brew - not some effete Wiltshire sommelier's idea of tea drunk with a finger toward ceiling cat.

Tea is relative. And compared to the ubiquitous Finnish Liptons, anything is an improvement. But spare a thought for your colonial brothers. PG is where it at.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 03:18:07 PM EST
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Well - the problem with PG is that it's not nearly strong enough.

Two effete Wiltshire sommelier's tea bags steeped for half an hour should put most people on hyper for the rest of the day.

That's why I drink it, anyway. That and I quite like the taste, too.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 03:21:00 PM EST
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apropos several comments this evening:

"There's one thing in this whole wide world,
i sure would like to see,
that's when that little love of mine,
dips her donut in my tea."

The Band



Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 04:15:09 PM EST
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BTW I had some Argentinian tea once, sucked thru a silver 'straw' like the gauchos love it. It scared the bejesus out of me.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 04:32:20 PM EST
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It's not tea, it's Mate. They sip it in the south of Brazil, too.

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 04:38:41 PM EST
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Mate has certain similarities with tea, especially, green tea. It's closer to tea than, for instance, Coke - in spite of the caffeine.

But we use multi-lensed POVs here. Are we talking cultural, chemical, physiological or semantical? To describe something as 'tea' is merely a limitation upon categorization. 8 -)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 05:37:31 PM EST
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There tends to be good tea in little boxes in the more extensive Indian corner shops...

Call me biased, but the best tea I ever had was in Darjeeling.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 03:18:38 PM EST
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Yes, I used to like Darjeeling a lot untilsomething happened to my taste buds nd I suddenly wanted great big tannin hits.

Question is, what sort of Darjeeling ? single estate ? Blend (consistent) soth facing, north facing. Believe me, go to Harrods food hall and you can buy such diversity and they're very interesting (s facing slightly more floral - n facing more body and tweak of bitterness)

But I moved towards Assam hits for everyday drinking. My perfect breakfast tea is Orange Pekoe/Keemun tea mixed with Lasang suchong and left to brew for about 20 - 30 minutes. That's a wake up call.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 04:06:40 PM EST
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Tannin be where it at. That's why I love my red wine. I need that dose.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 04:33:48 PM EST
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Who'd have thought it? Exposed to opium, heroin, THC in all forms, coke, mushrooms and things speedy - I get hooked on tannin....

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 04:35:41 PM EST
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<ducks> You're quite right about tea. Here they think it's a bag of perfumed hay dipped in a cup of hot water.

<raises head above parapet> I used to get decent tea from Marks & Spencer's Food Hall, but then they decided to close all their foreign operations so that was shot. Recently it's become easier to get direct imports from England in the supermarkets, Typhoo or PG or Taylor's of Harrogate. The thing is it must be packed in England and not have a word of French on the pack.

Just like there shouldn't be a word of English on the coffee... <ducks again>

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 03:06:42 PM EST
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teabags are the lowest quality form of tea. Really. It's sawdust.

With that, I'm off to Dunedin.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 03:10:21 PM EST
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elitist ;-p

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by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 03:18:53 PM EST
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American coffee is bad.  English coffee is liquefied evil.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 04:03:56 PM EST
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Hah. Someone who understands.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 04:11:29 PM EST
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I always mix grounds of soft South American or sometimes African (50/50), with tart arabica.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 04:37:43 PM EST
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