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Nope. It always used to be more of a big deal in London than in France. And, though I'm sure Melanchthon knows where to get his mitts on the really good stuff, most of what is sold is overpriced crap.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:16:56 PM EST
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BN has the negative that it is 'thin' in the extreme. It's for thin people.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:20:22 PM EST
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I've never had it, but I'm going to a french wine show tomorrow so it's likely I'll taste some.

I've always imagined it's like the better of the home-made wines I had in Bulgaria. Bought from the covered market in Sandanski for 6 lv for 2 litres (3 euros to you). It was effectively alcoholic grape juice, but if made well was distinctly more-ish. A couple of times I drank the full 2 litres with only vague damage the next day, so I assume it wasn't that strong. And before anybody says anything, 2 L of the normal stuff would leave me close to death.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:28:37 PM EST
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My limited experience of Bulgarama is that thinness is not an issue. Alcohol content and thinness are not directly related.

Bouquet, impression and length are parameters we judge in a lot more than wine - friends for instance.

Alcoholic inebriation is essentially a spin-off of the porocess.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:35:06 PM EST
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That's funny - there were some distinctly non-thin people drinking it - maybe I should have told them - :-) but we were all having a good time getting slightly drunk and listening to some jazz.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 06:11:41 PM EST
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Is there such a thing as "good BN"?

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 02:31:47 PM EST
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Melanchthon should tell us...
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 03:13:32 PM EST
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Some of us like any excuse for a party :-) - and I went out tonight, forced myself to drink some - but found a little bohemian bar with a jazz duo - very pleasant.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 05:28:44 PM EST
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As goes the story:

"Have some Beaujolais nouveau!"
"Thanks, but I'd rather drink some wine!"

Beaujolais nouveau is an awful stuff. The vinification process is accelerated to produce a beverage that can be sold within a few weeks, thus generating cash much sooner than if you wait for real wine to develop. The biggest consumers of Beaujolais Nouveau are Japan and the US...

Beaujolais (the normal one) is highly overrated except for some good ones like Moulin-à-Vent or Morgon (we had a nice Morgon the first time Helen came to Lyon), but you have to know the good proroducers.

By the way, my mother's family came fron Romanèche-Thorins.

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet

by Melanchthon on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 04:20:09 PM EST
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The biggest consumers of Beaujolais Nouveau are Japan and the US...
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Brouilly (neighboring Beaujolais) also quite nice, especially those from a good producer. Did an occasional "field trip" in the region when I was going to college in Lyon...

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
by Bernard on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 05:23:13 PM EST
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Beaujolais Nouveau on 11/27 - beyond polemics

Postby AlexR on Wed Nov 19, 2008

Of course, there are trends in wine just like everything else.

Even among the more staid, bourgeois wine drinkers among us ;-).

A recent trend is to knock Beaujolais.

Indeed, the press has not been kind to the appellation and sales have suffered.

Saying you like Beaujolais these days is like admitting to having seduced the babysitter.

However, let me speak up in defense of Beaujolais on 2 counts:

- Beaujolais Nouveau is simply fun. It's cheap and cheerful, and is one of the minor events on the calendar I look forward too. To a certain extent, quality is not the paramount attraction at this price point. It's the ritual of the thing. Many of the labels look good, and some of the better known shippers/producers put out a very honest product.
So, color me a hopeless romantic, or fool, or babysitter seducer, but I always buy Beaujolais Nouveau at least once in November - not expecting a Clos de Vougeot, but a fun, fruity, little wine.

...
Let us take Beaujolais Nouveau for what it is (and what it costs), and have a nuanced judgement of the appellation as a whole.

Best regards,
Alex R.

Postby David M. Bueker on Wed Nov 19, 2008

    AlexR: "Saying you like Beaujolais these days is like admitting to having seduced the babysitter."

Huh? Where's the problem? :twisted:

Anyway, this is a strange forum to post a defense of Beaujolais. There's a ton of Beaujolais fans here.

As for Nouveau (and isn't the release date 11/20), I really consider it a different beast. It's a party. To consider Nouveau indicative of the region would be the rough equivalent of considering fermenting samples of Entre-deux-mers to be the flagship of Bordeaux.

http://www.wineloverspage.com/forum/village/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=20148&start=0



Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 06:50:59 PM EST
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