I don't know the demographics of France well enough to go into too much detail there....
...adding: More importantly, I don't know the dynamics -- political and otherwise -- either, but I'd suspect they're similar to other countries. Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
What carried the election to Sarko was basically the over-65 demographics. Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
What carried the election to Sarko was basically the over-65 demographics.
Interesting. Can it be drilled down to a couple of basic reasons? Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
True, but by any measure she was not nearly as incompetent as Sarko (whose results as minister were invariably appalling, and who was pushing for policies right out of the George W Bush book, probably the modern yardstick of incompetence). Yet somehow the media was never pointing out things like "this man is a clown". Strange. Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi
So it is quite relevant. The media were incredibly biased in that respect, to the point of presenting Sarko's ministry tenures (which werein fact major failures) as strong points, as proof of competence. Again, despite having most of his own camp feeling he was rubbish.
It's well known that today, should the votes be anonymous, Sarko would not even have a majority within the UMP parliementary group.
Let alone in the Assemblée itself... Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi
You're a perfect illustration for my ideology diary, if you don't mind: not one sentence without heavy political bias. You seem to breathe contestation - of the media, of elections, of the elected parliament.
In such cases I tend to say: well get ready to spend 9 more years in this dire mood.
But it would be a provocation. What do I care that you're such a leftwing supporter and Royal fan. I don't even care if Sarko gets re-elected (or indeed will be a candidate 4 years from now).
But forget Sarko. Just a question: could you even conceive Mme. Royal might not be that good, do you allow for even a tiny bit of doubt? Or is it more like, we're all little soldiers ready to die for the Chief? Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)
Any other questions? In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
Like Fox News, except they actually believe they are "fair and balanced".
So take a guess, do you think the Swedish left or right is most interested in the Intertubes? Yeah, that's right. Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
(unless Sarko hating is such fundamental value over here that this needs no more proof whatsoever) Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)
« Beaucoup d'électeurs FN ont constaté que Nicolas Sarkozy disait les mêmes choses que Le Pen, mais que lui avait une chance de les mettre un jour en application. Ils ont donc voté utile. Parce qu'ils ont cessé de croire à l'accession de Le Pen au pouvoir » ( cité dans Le Canard enchaîné du 25 Avril 2007).
See this about his rally in Toulon in February 2007:
Lors de son meeting de Toulon, mercredi 7 février 2007, Nicolas Sarkozy a choisi des mots et des thèmes adaptés à une partie de la population locale. Il a continué à s'adresser aux électeurs du FN [1], distillant des messages pleins d'ambiguïté sur les immigrés qui « ne sont pas les bienvenus sur le territoire de la République » s'ils n'en respectent pas toutes les règles, avant de marquer son opposition à l'entrée de la Turquie dans l'Union Européenne. A quatorze reprises, il a lancé des anathèmes en commençant ses phrases par ce mot d'ordre : « Ça ne peut plus durer ! » désignant à la vindicte populaire « petit voyou et patron voyou », « multirécidivistes », « l'assisté qui gagne plus que le travailleur » [2].
A quatorze reprises, il a lancé des anathèmes en commençant ses phrases par ce mot d'ordre : « Ça ne peut plus durer ! » désignant à la vindicte populaire « petit voyou et patron voyou », « multirécidivistes », « l'assisté qui gagne plus que le travailleur » [2].
And did you not follow how much the news were focused on security, law and order, kicking the immigrants out and putting the "lazy" back to work? But presumably it is 'ideological' to point out that there are hard-right favorites? In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
Secondly, what you don't realize is how many people are indignated against lack of fairness in dealing with unemployment ("unemployed are always right", says the PC Bible, because they are victims, and victims always are), in dealing with immigrants (an immigrant is necessarily a sort of asilum seeker, he doesn't need to obey the law, respect the host country or the locals - I speak about respect, not submission, not abandoning one's identity). And so on. This gets a wide range of people indignated and they vote right. The left should be careful about picking its favourite categories and exclude others, or else they will continue to lose nation wide elections.
As to your quotation from Canard Enchaine, there was a documentary on France2 about their hard left leaning, or the absence of it. The conclusion was that yes. Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)
I only reported a uote by Gaudin. Criticizing the messenger is not an adequate argument. In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
Yes, you could say I hate him. Because he promotes the fear and hatred of the others, because he made a mockery of the rule of law, because his policies are abominably clientelist (to the point where I think we have to call it corruption) and so on. Certainly not because I had anything against him ex ante.
Sometimes, hatred is the sensible reaction. Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi
This is a symptom of the mind-boggling polarisation of the political life in France.
If Sarkozy calmed things down on his side, the left remains in the same extremist stance. If you claim that someone won by saying "arabs will rape your daughter", this claim is so extremist that blocks all possible dialogue. This attitude can be seen all over the French Left today. Their whole problem is how to gather their forces to FIGHT SARKOZY and to FIGHT THE RIGHT. It's almost like a crusade.
What you don't realize is that people are getting fed up with constant "extremisation", they prefer politicians who deal with issues and speak about France, not about adversaries, not vilifying them. So I repeat: more lost elections are about to come, as long as you guys continue to see the world in Black (the others) and White (Us) and focus on Battles against the Demon. Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)
Speaking for more reason and against blind faith could actually appear a bit like trolling, I suppose. What can I say, then... sorry to bother you in your comfort zone, I guess. Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)
