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Raping little kids hardly resembles Jesus' understanding of Christianity either (inasmuch as Jesus can be said to have had an understanding of a religion that would not be codified until at least a century after his death...). That does not prevent it from being a problem for Christianity, because quite a lot of variants of Christianity promote authoritarian social structures that makes it easier for perverts to rape little kids.

Similarly, it is worthwhile to examine how a Communist revolution (or was the Russian revolution not a Communist one?) can impose a regime that is so decidedly undesirable as that of the Soviet Union.

The French Revolution is - quite rightly - cited as a blemish on the history of democracy, because it turned into such a bloodbath. Future proponents of democracy arguably learned from this - learned such valuable lessons as "checks and balances" and "the popular vote isn't the be-all-end-all of democracy."

Tarring all of democracy with the French Revolution would clearly be unjustified, and tarring all of Communism with Stalin (or all of Christianity with child-raping priests) is equally so. But that does not mean that there are not lessons to be learned from the Russian Revolution that cannot be learned if you insist on sticking to the "they weren't communist enough" story.

- Jake

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by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Dec 2nd, 2008 at 06:52:37 PM EST
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"Tarring all of democracy with the French Revolution "Tarring all of democracy with the French Revolution would clearly be unjustified, and tarring all of Communism with Stalin (or all of Christianity with child-raping priests) is equally so."  

Quite.

"But that does not mean that there are not lessons to be learned from the Russian Revolution that cannot be learned if you insist on sticking to the "they weren't communist enough" story."

One obvious lesson is try to avoid someone like Stain from taking over and having almost total power. I.e. try to stick to the most fundamental aspects of communism which are opposed to dictatorhsip.

But the problem with learning from history is that it doesn't exactly repeat itself; Nicaragua in the 80s isn't Russia in the 1920s, etc.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Wed Dec 3rd, 2008 at 03:25:41 PM EST
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