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So, Ideology is Dead. So now what ? | 366 comments (366 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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I'm not going to enter a detailed discussion about unions.

You never do...

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Sun Nov 30th, 2008 at 09:44:42 AM EST
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Re: So, Ideology is Dead. So now what ? (none / 0)

Because I won't allow myself dragged into that, when the point I'm trying to make is not that. Do read my reply to Jake: I have nothing against unions, except when they promote class warfare. I have nothing against economists, except when they pretend to make a society moulded on their own desires.

Btw the point of this post was technocratic bureaucracy, it is sad that instead of noting that (maybe even commenting), all you and Jake care about is my pretended political bias.

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)

by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Sun Nov 30th, 2008 at 09:53:12 AM EST
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Unions promote class warfare? How, where and when pray tell? Last time I checked, it was the top 10 % of the wealth distribution that was waging class war on everybody else. Or perhaps you think unions are at fault for actually fighting the war that the fatcats started instead of rolling over and playing dead like the so-called social democratic parties in parliament?

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Nov 30th, 2008 at 11:47:02 AM EST
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I never said unions are at fault, I don't think they should fight any way.

And then, I don't remmeber having ever even mentioned unions in the diary post above (which I recommend to you, in case you didn't read it yet).

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)

by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Sun Nov 30th, 2008 at 04:22:32 PM EST
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Are you seriously saying that unions should refuse to defend themselves when subjected to a concerted attack by neoliberal fanatics? Are you seriously saying that unions should not oppose the dismantling of civilised society by people who want to throw us back to the 19th century?

Something tells me that you don't have such a lenient attitude towards fanatics who wish to impose Shari'a...

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Nov 30th, 2008 at 07:11:47 PM EST
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