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We agreed about media anti-trust laws, although hard to implement. See Berlusconi.

State universities are not always quite so insulated from either state bureaucracy or political influence. There is a point to those americans saying that whatever the state touches, becomes inefficient, a perk and a political territory. The bad side of democracy. Their extremist solution is no better though.

My opening diary was about my latest two week trip to Scandinavia actually.


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by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Wed Dec 3rd, 2008 at 08:47:40 PM EST
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State universities are not always quite so insulated from either state bureaucracy or political influence.

Tell me about it... our universities have been brought to the ragged edge of dysfunction by a right-wing imbecile of a minister who insists on micro-managing everything.

There is a point to those americans saying that whatever the state touches, becomes inefficient, a perk and a political territory.

And this isn't true for the things corporations do?

It is of course true inasmuch as "inefficient" is taken to mean "catering to other purposes than blindly maximising profit." Which is the usual wingnut definition. As to whether public institutions are in general less efficient at fulfilling their roles in society... well, no, as public railways and utilities can attest.

- Jake

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by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 05:11:23 AM EST
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You speaking of Danish universities ?

Corporations do other kind of bad things, they don't do bureaucracy. Their goal is always the market and the profit, which is normal, their reason of existence, and which must be well regulated to avoid abuse
(like insurance corporations refusing to reimburse people on pretexts).

OTOH state's role is to serve the society, and bureaucracy or political perks are NOT normal. Not the same thing.

As it happens, the private railways example is IMO an example of bad regulation, even though I tend to consider this a domain of public service and a strategic domain, and so I even wonder whether it should not be, as such, state property.

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by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 09:43:24 AM EST
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Yeah, I'm speaking of Danish universities. More specifically of Helge Sander's "reforms."

Corporations don't do bureaucracy? ROFLMAO! Oh, they certainly also do those other Bad Things you mention. But they sure do bureaucracy too... Yeah, it makes them less effective and hurts their bottom line, but that doesn't prevent them from doing it.

I agree with you that railways are a bad example, though, because you're right, they shouldn't be private. They were just the most obvious example I could think of off the top of my head of excessively bureaucratic private organisations vs. much more efficient public sector ones providing essentially the same services.

- Jake

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by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 01:21:07 PM EST
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