For instance, in France, secularism implies opposition to religion and church, for many historical reasons.
Bah! Even the most casual tourist can see that the Catholic Church holds a privileged position in French society - de facto if not de jure. If that's your definition of repression against the church, then you have a somewhat curious view of the legitimate role of religious groups in a democratic society.
My point was to show things are more nuanced than simply saying Sarkozy is an ideological monster.
I never said that Sarko was an ideological monster. I just pointed out to you that the slogans you cite give very reasonable cause for complaint and concern from the left, because they belie a right-wing ideological position. At least, if they mean anything at all - but let's be generous to Sarko and assume that he's not a total air-head (or at least that not all of his handlers are...).
- Jake If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.
As for the Catholic Church, they certainly hold a less privileged position than they do in most formerly Catholic countries... But they are hardly the oppressed dissidents that their own propaganda tries to paint them as.
There are more floating around the thread, but these will suffice as examples.
