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As usual you don't cite a bit of evidence, it's just assertion of the most caricaturing kind - blatant ideology. Provided with evidence you simply ignore it. I don't provide it to convince you - a closed mind if ever I saw one, but for others who might possibly find your blathering in any way persuasive.


Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 09:02:10 AM EST
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I don't need to cite anything, look at how it happened in practice. But I forgot, you claim that was not "genuine" practice. Oh well. Nothing was. The thing remains an utopia, and people will continue to be cheated by ideologists. Hence the instinctive disgust for a pragmatic, rational approach, not unlike creationists' when you bring them to carbon-dated samples.

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)
by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 10:08:50 AM EST
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"I don't need to cite anything, look at how it happened in practice".

The typical response of the ideologist - ignore the evidence, ignore the arguments - a dictatorship is not a version of communism - and pretend that "practice" is your opinion about what happened.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 11:18:31 AM EST
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Even philosophically I don't need to cite anything. Marxism is BASED on that view that I mentioned. Your job to look up The Capital and all the other books, or any encyclopedy you like if you're that unknowledgeable in things marxist.

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)
by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 10:10:35 AM EST
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"Even philosophically I don't need to cite anything. Marxism is BASED on that view that I mentioned."

No, of course you don't have to cite anything - you just think to know and we are supposed to accept your opinion which is, like the truly ideological, impervious to the evidence and doesn't bother to offer any.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 11:23:30 AM EST
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No, it's just that I don't really see what you want me to provide links or quotations for.

You want me to prove that dialectical materialism, or historical materialism was materialist and, well, dialectical ? :)  

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)

by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 01:21:37 PM EST
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