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You doubt it, yet you are too, if I may, one living proof of it :)

I don't refer to rational Reason.

Start up without assumptions or made-up truths

It all begins with very small things. Maybe a word said, the tone of a voice, will trigger a reaction in us that we hadn't planned and that we cannot control. Maybe the voice sounded so much like aunt Martha or you heard that word from your teacher when you didn't do your homework.

You will feel free from assumptions and above made-up truths but social conditioning, experience are often stronger than our good will. Rational Reason is quite abstract, cold and scientific. You had mentioned Newton's laws, which is why I don't subscribe to being a reasonable rationalist or a rational reasonalist.

I'm speaking real-life politics here: in practice, we can actually find a lot more precise answers to problems than one might suspect.

The real world is much more prosaic and issues often have much simpler solutions than we might suspect

The problem is that precise answers to problems and simple solutions rarely allow us to conclude that policy makers were led by rational Reason.

by Lily (put - lilyalmond - here <a> yahaah.france) on Mon Dec 1st, 2008 at 05:28:56 PM EST
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So we're back to how much social conditioning there is, and how much we are masters of ourselves, or tiny wheels in the great mechanism.
I've seen too many people thinking with their own mind, critical of their background or environment, to doubt the existence of free will and the effectiveness of critical thinking.

Einstein's relativity is political philosophy. Newton's Laws are politics applied to every day life; the former is becoming more like a historical phenomenology of politics, while the latter is becoming independent and intelligent enough to make a difference.

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)

by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Mon Dec 1st, 2008 at 09:10:13 PM EST
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Despite (or perhaps because of) the fact that I'm a physicist by training, I always have been skeptical of analogies between physical models and political life. That being said, even if one accepts such analogies in general, this particular analogy is rather curious. Are you seriously contending that special and general relativity are any more obscure, anachronistic or inapplicable to everyday life than Newton's laws?

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Dec 2nd, 2008 at 05:16:36 AM EST
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You're completely mistaking the analogy. It was rather about the degree of relevance to every day life.

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)
by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Tue Dec 2nd, 2008 at 03:26:37 PM EST
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Because people obviously use Newton's laws in their everyday life, more than they use GenRel...

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Dec 2nd, 2008 at 03:35:30 PM EST
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That is not what I said. Simplifying isn't helpful in any way.

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)
by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Tue Dec 2nd, 2008 at 04:32:55 PM EST
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Then I utterly fail to understand your analogy.

Maybe I'm just stupid, but could you bend it in neon for me?

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Dec 2nd, 2008 at 04:53:33 PM EST
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