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Anyone seen this before? Apparently, YouTube is full of videos made at the scene (almost all mis-identifying the location as the other end of the line, Bangkok).

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Sat Nov 29th, 2008 at 08:15:05 AM EST
Yes, several times ... and, yes, often misidentified as Bangkok.

I saw it just this last week in some commentary thread somewhere along the lines of "here's some real commitment to TOD for you".


Utsukushikereba sore de ii

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sat Nov 29th, 2008 at 12:13:52 PM EST
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Found it ... its not in the commentary thread, its in the main article,
On a real-world note that is only marginally lighter, how's this for transit-oriented development?

... at the end of High Speed FAIL! on the California HSR blog.

Utsukushikereba sore de ii
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sun Nov 30th, 2008 at 10:38:55 AM EST
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Thanks! Reminded me to look at Montereyan's blog again. (Who is linking to this thread in the comments.)

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Sun Nov 30th, 2008 at 01:43:33 PM EST
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Oh, three cheers for provisional ballot voters on the BART extension to San José -- which, I learn from Montereyan's blog, passed the necessary two thirds in the end!

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Sun Nov 30th, 2008 at 02:05:00 PM EST
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... for a long time, with Bart looking like it would "fail" with a mere 66.2%, but it came good in the end, so it ended up 4 out of 4.


Utsukushikereba sore de ii
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sun Nov 30th, 2008 at 02:11:38 PM EST
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I did check back to the official link Montereyan gave on his blog, every day for maybe ten days after the elections, and saw the figure climb higher and higher, but getting stuck around a maddening 66.5%. It was pretty annoying that the only figure they gave for the state of the counting was an unchanging "Completed Precincts 1,142 of 1,142"... so I gave up.

I love when direct democracy defends public transport while politicians would waver -- I wish we would have more such referenda as Californians and Swiss citizens have had.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sun Nov 30th, 2008 at 02:18:57 PM EST
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Unfortunately there's a lawsuit by BART opponents seeking a manual recount of the vote. Measure B in Santa Clara County was approved by 66.78% of voters, which would normally be a landslide win.

California however requires a 2/3 vote to approve a tax increase, put into place by conservatives in 1978 via Proposition 13, the far-right anti-tax, anti-government reform that is largely responsible for California's severe budget difficulties.

Still, your point is a good one - every passenger rail proposal on the ballot in California passed, many of them with nearly 70% support in a high-turnout election. One would hope that will send an unmistakable signal that passenger rail is VERY popular with voters, and therefore should be more popular with the politicians who want their votes.

And the world will live as one

by Montereyan (robert at calitics dot com) on Sun Nov 30th, 2008 at 07:36:09 PM EST
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How much would it take to change the 2/3-rule?
by A swedish kind of death on Mon Dec 1st, 2008 at 01:52:31 AM EST
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Well, it would mean repealing part of Prop. 13, which was passed with a normal vote, so on the one hand, if no taxes are explicitly raised, it might mean a simple majority. On the other hand, it might be implicitly regarded as a tax increase, meaning 2/3. I suspect it will be up to  the courts to decide, something they already have to do when deciding what is a "special tax" for the purposes of Prop.13

Note that even in the case of repeal of Prop.13, tax increases still need a 2/3 vote in the legislature.

Does anybody know whether the status of civil unions is the same as marriage, for the purpose of local taxes in California? It would be fun to have Prop.8 repealed as a tax increase....

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Mon Dec 1st, 2008 at 05:40:22 AM EST
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