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And now Hart's Location has spoken:

Obama 17
McCain 10
Paul 2

Here are the currently known official results of 2008 US Presidential Election:

Obama  32 64%
McCain 16 32%
Paul    2 4%

by ATinNM on Tue Nov 4th, 2008 at 01:35:26 AM EST
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That's not a lean, it's a barely controlled explosion.

Might as well call it now.

I'm wondering tentatively if there's going to be a reverse Dewey-Truman - the polls get it completely wrong, but in the wrong direction.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Nov 4th, 2008 at 04:02:20 AM EST
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What is it about rural white farmers and Obama?

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Nov 4th, 2008 at 08:39:25 AM EST
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Obama is from Illinois.  Of course he can connect to rural whites.
by ATinNM on Tue Nov 4th, 2008 at 10:44:24 AM EST
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Do they do it on purpose, to have republican-leaning places vote first?

I'm thinking of the map you posted the past few days where Indiana was one of the first two states to close the polls, despite not being on the East Coast.

Also, it's interesting that in Europe there's an 'embargo' on announcing election results until all polling stations have closed. Obviously the US is unconcerned about voters being influenced by known partial results.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 4th, 2008 at 05:05:38 AM EST
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It might be a side effect of republican-leaning places closing early, to make it harder for poor people with jobs to get to the polls.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Tue Nov 4th, 2008 at 05:17:51 AM EST
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so swing to Obama of 26% taking that from the last election results that wold mean that only Alaska and Alabama were toss ups, and everywhere else would lean crazily for Obama ;-)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 4th, 2008 at 05:37:46 AM EST
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Sample size, anyone?

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 4th, 2008 at 05:46:10 AM EST
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Spoilsport

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Nov 4th, 2008 at 06:11:49 AM EST
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See also 538.com.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 4th, 2008 at 06:51:11 AM EST
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True but - I don't think anyone seriously expects this to mean a 65% Obama win.

It would be useful to know the previous voting habits of these people and the demographic spread. Even if it's a tiny sample it's still a huge shift.

The anecdotal evidence is that McCain has lost the confidence of his party and ceded a non-trivial demographic spread to Obama. This is one small data point which supports that. There may be good reasons for the shift - maybe the population has changed since 2004 - but it's not just random noise.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Nov 4th, 2008 at 07:05:53 AM EST
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Well last election they went like this

The Command Post - 2004 US Presidential Election - Hart's Location a dead heat; Nader a spoiler!

New Hampshire | Hart's Location a dead heat; Nader a spoiler!

Bush won early this morning in a 19-7 landslide in Dixville Notch, NH, which is no surprise given the town's Republican-leaning tendencies.

But in New Hampshire's other early-voting hamlet, Hart's Location, it's a tie! How fitting in this deadlocked election. The tally: Bush 15, Kerry 15, Nader 1.

Hey, look, Ralph Nader cost Kerry the election! :)

So, if you're keeping score at home, with something like 0.01% of the precincts reporting, it's Bush 34, Kerry 22, Nader 1 in the Granite State.

And the Dixville Notch wikipedia page has a list of its poll and primary results back to 1960

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 4th, 2008 at 08:05:00 AM EST
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Alaska will go before Idaho and Utah, and a bunch of other states. It's not completely outside the realm of possibility, as there was a poll yesterday showing Obama down only three points. I wouldn't bet on it, but if the polls underestimated Obama across the board, Alaska would definitely be in play, as would Arizona.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Nov 4th, 2008 at 07:40:51 AM EST
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Actually, McCain may be crashing in Alaska.  There's been only one poll since Stevens's conviction, and it had McCain's lead falling from close to 20 points to only 3, with Stevens virtually assured defeat.

I kind of doubt it, since it's probably just a wacky sample, but you never know.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Nov 4th, 2008 at 08:41:32 AM EST
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