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The only truly interesting thing in the BBC coverage is the historical map of previous elections.

I had no idea that the South used to be a Dem stronghold, or just how badly Dems have been slaughtered in landslides.

There has never been a true Dem landslide of 400+. Clinton came closest, but there's been nothing to match the total wipe outs inflicted on Dukakis and McGovern.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Nov 3rd, 2008 at 02:35:58 PM EST
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Eeehm, Johnson v. Goldwater, 1964? Plus, Roosevelt got over 400 every election he stood.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Mon Nov 3rd, 2008 at 02:41:00 PM EST
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I had no idea that the South used to be a Dem stronghold

And Abe Lincoln was a Republican.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Mon Nov 3rd, 2008 at 02:42:26 PM EST
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That I knew. :)
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Nov 3rd, 2008 at 02:48:48 PM EST
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The South was reliably Dem until President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, ending Jim Crow.

That signing was basis of the GOP Southern Strategy.

by ATinNM on Mon Nov 3rd, 2008 at 02:47:09 PM EST
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FDR got over 400.  He actually got over 500 in '36.  LBJ got close to 500 in the last hurrah of the New Deal Coalition.  But, yeah, no Dem in the modern era has hit 400.  Clinton came close.  It'd be very tough for Obama, but he's got a shot at it (gotta win all the obvious swing states, plus Georgia and Arizona).

The history of American politics is largely a history of conservative industrialists and capitalists with brief periods of pretty strong liberalism thrown in when things got way off track.

The Dems were the party of slavery and, later, Jim Crow right up to the 1960s.  Johnson said, just before he signed the Civil Rights Act, "We've lost the South for a generation."  It's been three generations, actually.  Might finally start to see some daylight tomorrow (ironically, with a black nominee).  Dems did the right thing and paid for it by losing a lot of for forty years.

But, really, we've been in a conservative swing for forty years.  Prior to Nixon, it was a liberal swing, even under guys like Ike.  Now we seem to be at the very front end of the next realignment, which looks like a liberal one.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Nov 3rd, 2008 at 04:12:40 PM EST
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Nixon was not a part of Movement Conservatism, even if he was an asshole.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Mon Nov 3rd, 2008 at 06:12:35 PM EST
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