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European Salon de News, Discussion et Klatsch - 9. November | 55 comments (55 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

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Hispanics perhaps, but I fail to see how a change from 90% support for Democrats in 2004 to 98% support for Obama in 2008 was at the head of this shift. That's something like maybe a million voters concentrated in a few states.

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by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Sun Nov 9th, 2008 at 09:39:58 AM EST
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Well, that turned NC, and made it easier to turn Virginia, Ohio...

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by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sun Nov 9th, 2008 at 09:41:54 AM EST
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Made it easier in VA, but he still would've won it. It was just the difference between a very tight win of (say) 2 points and a pretty strong win of the actual 5-6 points.

Ohio doesn't really have very many black people, so I'm not sure if it would've swung things much there. Obama won working-class whites in Ohio and came within 6 points of the overall white vote. So there were obviously enough black folks in Cleveland to flip it, but it really didn't require much.

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by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sun Nov 9th, 2008 at 12:25:25 PM EST
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It was a ten-point gain among blacks multiplied by a two-point gain among them as a share of the electorate. That makes little noticeable difference in the aggregate, but that's basically more than the difference in North Carolina.

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by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sun Nov 9th, 2008 at 12:21:42 PM EST
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European Salon de News, Discussion et Klatsch - 9. November | 55 comments (55 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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