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THE Twank: Has the makings of a bullshit session I haven't seen since my stoned college days.

LOL.  Indeed it does!

But he does give a pretty good starter for a definition:

Colman:

Evil - being interested only in achieving your own aims regardless of their effect on others (with a side order of enjoying hurting others)

Lately, I've been hearing and reading more references to "evil" in more "liberal" press.  Like this, for example:

Don't rationalize the evil of terrorism

Don't rationalize the evil of terrorism

Evil In Mumbai : NPR

... after covering too many killings, as a reporter or host, in Bosnia, Kosovo, Oklahoma City or Somalia, I've come to the conclusion that the perpetrators of such crimes might just be ... evil.

Evil is a word that many people of my generation shrink from using. It seems so imprecise and uneducated -- biblical, rather than cerebral and informed.

But there are times and crimes that remind me how often the Bible gets it right.

I can't help but wonder, is it that because now that liberals hold the reins of power in the U.S., we feel more comfortable using words like "good" and "evil" that we used to reproach the conservatives for post-9/11. (I am not referring to Colman here, but to American liberals in the U.S. media.)

Or maybe my assumptions are wrong:  for example, maybe liberals were also condemning evil during the Bush years as well, but i did not pick up on it in the din of the conservative cacophony.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Tue Dec 2nd, 2008 at 07:53:09 AM EST
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By MY definition, I can catagorically claim that green plants, capable of utilizing solar energy, atmospheric nitrogen, and carbon dioxide for their metabolic purposes ARE NOT EVIL!  Beyond them, you might get into a morass of "evil from whose point of view?".  

Where's my bong?

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Dec 2nd, 2008 at 08:19:43 AM EST
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Did we already have that conversation about whether for plants WE are evil...hey, the bong, man, I think you put it on the shelf.



Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Tue Dec 2nd, 2008 at 08:29:05 AM EST
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Oh and hey (puff puff), I have a definition of Evil for you:

Evil

A word humans use to give agency to that which fills them with Fear and/or Loathing



Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Tue Dec 2nd, 2008 at 08:52:16 AM EST
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Is this your personal collection or did you find this photo on the net?  Impressive collection!

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Dec 2nd, 2008 at 09:33:57 AM EST
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Hey, I thought it was YOUR collection....Twank...WHERE ARE WE?!!

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Tue Dec 2nd, 2008 at 10:25:23 AM EST
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More importatnly; when are we ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Dec 2nd, 2008 at 10:30:29 AM EST
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Well, I think it's 1432, but I could be out by a few years either way.

Hold on.  OF COURSE!  It's YOUR bong collection!  

But...  

(I remember being on the train, I remember Twank producing a grey handkerchief from his pocket, a handkerchief he opened, revealing a brownish lump.  I remember him saying,

"Psychedelic truffle.  Just try a tiny bit.  I want to sell them to afew."

I remember thinking, "Well, anything to help afew!" and taking a bite.

And then I remember a BANG! and a voice shouting, "Bollocks!")

But....Essex?

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Tue Dec 2nd, 2008 at 11:08:08 AM EST
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Tell that to the bacteria they kill.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Dec 2nd, 2008 at 09:05:02 AM EST
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I don't know what was happening in the liberal newspapers (assuming there are any) but I know that online, condemnation of Bush and Cheney for being evil was popular and common.

I'd like to see a right wing definition of evil that isn't tautological. (E.g. replace 'godless' with 'evil', swap back and forth indefinitely.)

Right wingers believe liberals are evil because...?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Dec 2nd, 2008 at 08:32:08 AM EST
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