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Scientists urge caution on global warming - Politico.com Print View
Climate change skeptics on Capitol Hill are quietly watching a growing accumulation of global cooling science and other findings that could signal that the science behind global warming may still be too shaky to warrant cap-and-trade legislation. 

While the new Obama administration promises aggressive, forward-thinking environmental policies, Weather Channel co-founder Joseph D'Aleo and other scientists are organizing lobbying efforts to take aim at the cap-and-trade bill that Democrats plan to unveil in January.

So far, members of Congress have not been keen to publicly back the global cooling theory. But both senators from Oklahoma, Republicans Tom Coburn and Jim Inhofe, have often expressed doubts about how much of a role man-made emissions play.

"We want the debate to be about science, not fear and hypocrisy. We hope next year's wave of new politics means a return to science," said Coburn aide John Hart. "It's the old kind of politics that doesn't consider any dissenting opinions."

The global cooling lobby's challenge is enormous. Next year could be the unfriendliest yet for climate skeptics. Already, House Energy and Commerce Chairman John Dingell (D-Mich.) has lost his gavel, in part because his peers felt he was less than serious about tackling global warming.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:55:14 PM EST
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Tracking 'The Gore Effect' - Erika Lovley - Politico.com
On Oct. 22, Gore's global warming speech at Harvard University coincided with near 125-year record-breaking low temperatures. And less than a week later, on Oct. 28, the British House of Commons held a marathon debate on global warming during London's first October snowfall since 1922.

While there's no scientific proof that The Gore Effect is anything more than a humorous coincidence, some climate skeptics say it may offer a snapshot of proof that the planet isn't warming as quickly as some climate change advocates say.

"You can't fool Mother Nature," said climate skeptic scientist and meteorologist Joseph D'Aleo. "We used to kid in forecasting that whenever we were very certain about a major forecast, it would wind up being so dead wrong that we'd be embarrassed. It certainly makes you think."
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:58:32 PM EST
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nobody said the whole wolrd would get warmer, it was just that there would be more enrgy in weather systems, hotter and colder, wetter and drier whilst being windier and stormier generally. More extreme weathers.

I still think that what we're seeing is related to the el Nina and solar minimum combination that, if so, will bugger up next year as well.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 05:24:27 PM EST
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I would be more convinced were the polar ice caps expanding and glaciers growing and were so many of the "skeptics" not so obviously self interested.  There is evidence that increased particulate air pollution, especially at stratospheric levels, does have a cooling effect, but do we really want the atmosphere of the entire planet to look like that of Beijing one month prior to the Olympics?

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 10:19:46 PM EST
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Politico's journalistic malpractice | Gristmill: The environmental news blog | Grist

Today brings two of the most jaw-droppingly moronic stories I've ever seen, both in Politico, both written by Erika Lovley, who one can only assume is either the most dimwitted, gullible reporter in D.C. or ... um, I can't think of another explanation.

Remember those articles you'd see five years ago, "balanced" stories on global warming science quoting the same small group of deniers, citing the same debunked myths, and conspicuously failing to reference a single peer-reviewed scientific paper or reputable scientific organization? The ones you thought self-respecting media organizations had finally tired of running?

These are worse than that.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:59:56 PM EST
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Can we move these wankers to one of the islands that's due to be submerged soon and take away the boats and ask them again what they think?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:59:58 PM EST
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Think?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 04:29:38 PM EST
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[wipes tea spray off screen}

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 05:25:37 PM EST
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Boy I hope Nomad shows up (and has time to put this in perspective).

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:20:41 AM EST
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