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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:32:31 PM EST
Oil drops below $44 to lowest in nearly 4 years | Reuters

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Oil fell more than 6 percent on Thursday to its lowest level in nearly four years in response to further bleak economic data that could spell a deeper decline in global energy demand.

The number of U.S. workers on jobless rolls hit a 26-year high last month, the government said, while another report showed U.S. factory orders fell sharply for the third month in a row.

U.S. light crude dropped $2.86 to $43.93 a barrel by 1:13 p.m. EST after slipping as low as $43.77 -- the lowest since January 2005. London Brent crude fell $2.87 to $42.57.

Oil prices have dropped more than $100 a barrel from record highs over $147 in July, as the global credit crunch has eaten into demand in large consumer nations.

"Relentless negativity is pressuring the oil complex," said Mike Fitzpatrick, vice president at MF Global.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:34:14 PM EST
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Who is holding the bottom position in Jerome's oil price lottery?
by asdf on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 07:37:14 PM EST
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I made no bet, which surely equals zero, so... :-)
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:50:02 AM EST
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Hedge fund cowboys damaging industry: Veritas | Deals | Reuters

LONDON (Reuters) - Hedge funds are suffering "tremendous" reputational damage because promises to make money whichever way markets move have not been fulfilled, although in the long run the industry will benefit from the shake-out, Veritas Asset Management manager Ezra Sun said.

Hedge fund "cowboys" boosting returns with lots of borrowing rather than smart strategies were the main culprits for the reputational damage, with investors blaming them for charging high fees and blocking them from withdrawing their money, he said.

"The market in the past few years has been rewarding people who've been running basically leveraged long-only funds," Sun told Reuters in an interview.

"They are now being shown to be basically cowboys, and a lot of them fell off their horses," he said.

Many hedge funds were charging high fees but not hedging out risk said Sun, who runs the $132 million Real Return Asian hedge fund and the $543 million Veritas Asian long-only fund and who was previously at Newton Investment Management.

The $1.7 trillion hedge fund industry's biggest ever crisis has seen funds lose 15.54 percent in the first ten months of the year, with long/short equity funds down 19.46 percent.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:34:47 PM EST
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Bloomberg.com: Worldwide

Dec. 4 (Bloomberg) -- Sales at U.S. retailers tumbled in November, the worst monthly decline in almost four decades, after the Wall Street meltdown caused consumers to postpone shopping until the holiday-sales kickoff on Black Friday.

J.C. Penney Co., Nordstrom Inc. and Gap Inc. all reported sales drops of 10 percent or more at stores open at least a year. The decreases were less than some analysts estimated after 50 percent-off discounts lured customers grappling with the U.S. recession. Wal-Mart Stores Inc. posted a 3.4 percent gain, beating its forecast.

Declines in consumer spending in October persisted into the first part of November before rebounding after the Thanksgiving Day holiday. Retailers may need to keep promoting half-off markdowns over the next three weeks to attract customers, even though such sales erode margins during a period when they make a third or more of their annual profit.

"The promotions are pretty much across the board in retail, and some are the biggest you've seen in years," said David Abella, a portfolio manager at Rochdale Investment Management LLC in New York, with $2 billion in assets including Wal-Mart shares. "They will need to keep that up through December to draw traffic and sales."

Even with the Black Friday discounts, November same-store sales fell 2.7 percent, the International Council of Shopping Centers said, based on a survey of 37 chains. That's the biggest drop since the ICSC began tracking data in 1969. Excluding Wal-Mart, sales plunged 7.7 percent.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:35:26 PM EST
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Bloomberg.com: Worldwide

Dec. 4 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. lawmakers were told General Motors Corp., the country's largest automaker, may fail this month if they don't give the cash infusion the company seeks.

"I believe we could lose General Motors by the end of this month," Ronald Gettelfinger, president of the United Auto Workers union, told a Senate panel today in Washington.

The Big Three automakers renewed their plea for an emergency federal bailout as a deadlocked Congress showed no progress in deciding how to aid them. GM Chief Executive Rick Wagoner said his company needs an "immediate" $4 billion, and $4 billion more next month.

"We're here today because we made mistakes," Wagoner told the Senate Banking Committee. "Forces beyond our control have pushed us to the brink."

Wagoner, Chrysler LLC Chief Executive Robert Nardelli and Ford Motor Co.'s Alan Mulally together are asking for as much as $34 billion in federal aid. "I am sorry to be asking for this support," Wagoner told reporters before the hearing began.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:35:57 PM EST
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Not seeing it.

Never figured, regardless of how people felt one way or another, the government would let GM go down, but if they've got less than a month, they're probably not going to make it.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 05:09:51 PM EST
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Truly historic times.

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 08:07:22 AM EST
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Eammon Fingleton on the Dec. 4 in Counterpointbrings us some context to the problems faced by Detroit that has been missing from recent MSM accounts of their problems.  While these factors are hardly new, I can only wonder why they have remained unaddressed for so long.

Defending The American Car Industry

Though you would never know it from the way the news has been reported, for forty years the Detroit companies' foreign competitors have systematically pursued predatory pricing in the American market. They have thereby starved Detroit of the adequate returns necessary to invest in new, more efficient production technologies.

The Japanese in particular have used unfair trade practices to devastating effect. On the one hand they have kept their home market as a protected sanctuary, where they often garner superrich profits. On the other  in the American market they have often sold their products at little more than marginal cost.

All Japanese government denials to the contrary, the Japanese domestic market is heavily protected. Thus the high pricing there is reserved for Japanese producers.  Two German manufacturers, Mercedes-Benz and BMW, enjoy  token positions at the top end but have been  strictly boxed in to ensure that for more than two decades the combined share of all foreign makers has been kept to a mere 4 per cent.

Even Korean car makers are shut out (though they sell effectively against Japanese competition everywhere else). It is not as if the Koreans and Japanese don't trade with each other in other  industries. Actually they do a huge trade:  Korea is Japan's third largest trading partner and Japan is Korea's second. The fact is that as a matter of policy on both sides, cars are not traded (Korea's car market is even more protected than Japan's and even more hostile to American imports).

For students of Japanese protectionism perhaps the most telling point is that though France's Renault company, through its stake in Nissan, nominally controls Japan's second biggest showroom network, it has never been allowed to sell more than a few hundred of its French-made products in Japan.

Fingleton goes on to describe the baleful effect of the strong dollar on the export prospects for US heavy industry.  The only motive he suggests for these policies is the assertion that "members of the American elite wanted to enjoy the benefits of a high dollar when they travel abroad."  This would seem to me to be a secondary or tertiary factor at best in US policy making.  What are the primary benefits for which so many policy makers have allowed Detroits ox to be so gored?

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 06:13:57 PM EST
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This theory of Japanese auto protectionism seems pretty weak to me. For one thing, they drive on the wrong side of the road and Detroit doesn't design their cars to have steering on either side. So that keeps out the vast majority of cars.

For another thing, what about the many markets where the Japanese compete and Detroit doesn't? Like Africa, for instance? Or Southeast Asia?

I think that the biggest problem GM and Ford have is centered on their products, not their wage costs or manufacturing efficiency or brand management or executive compensation. They simply don't make the kinds of cars that people want to buy. You can't buy a car made in Detroit that competes with the Honda Fit or Toyota Yaris. Period. At any cost.

by asdf on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 07:42:12 PM EST
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Having owned both during the last 40 years, I will not argue the quality issue.  However, I have a low mileage 96 Explorer that I bought from my in-laws in Jan, 06 for $6K that has performed fine.  It will tow 5000 lbs. and has 4WD.  I thought it would be handy for in the Ozarks and was right.  It only gets 17mpg, but I knew that going in.  It has about 90K miles on it and I haven't seen any significant quality problems.  My sense it that the quality gap has significantly closed in the last several years.

Should there be money to be made, I think Detroit would have solved the right hand drive issue.  Ford certainly knows how to make right hand drive vehicles.  This is certainly not the first time I have heard the protected domestic market argument and I have yet to see it convincingly refuted.  I doubt that it can be.  Nor is this the first time I have heard the strong dollar argument.

My suspicion is that these policies strongly favor large US retailers and those in the financial dis-services industry who have bought up, closed down and laid off workers of US manufacturers so they could ship the production to China and other low labor cost destinations and then clean up and sell the property formerly owned by said hapless manufacturing companies.

I believe that this is a suicidal, unsustainable race to the bottom that now has succeeded in hollowing out the US economy for the benefit of retail, transport and finance and has helped create a massive national accounts problem that had to blow up, which it is now doing.  

The other significant contributor to this problem has been our oil companies and the associated national accounts problems deriving from importing so much oil, especially at $40 to $140/bl.  This has allowed those companies with domestic production to sell at great profit oil that costs them $2.00/bl. to $20/bl. to produce.

So due to the highly unequal distribution of wealth in this country and the consequent highly unequal distribution of economic and political power the whole country has been systematically looted and run into the ground in the interest of a few small vested interests.  The rest of us are left with the carcass of an economy.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 09:20:52 PM EST
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BTY, American made vehicles were the vehicle of choice for Arabs in Saudi Arabia when I was there.  They were especially fond of large SUVs.  It was a high profit market.  Mercedes also did very well.  Detroit has never done well in low cost vehicles, in part because they have high legacy costs in the form of a long tail of retired workers owed pensions and medical care.  Japanese operated US manufacturing plants as yet have no retirees.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 09:32:19 PM EST
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My understanding is that the labor cost in a car is only about 10% of the total. It's a capital intensive business, and Japan has pretty high labor costs just as does the U.S.

And you're right that Ford in Europe knows how to make LHD cars--in order to sell them in Britain. But how many Detroit-made cars find their way to Europe?

by asdf on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 09:47:33 PM EST
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I suspect that the question of legacy costs depends to a large extent on the degree to which the state underwrites the costs of retirement and medical benefits.  If your competitors have only to pay labor costs for those currently working and you have to pay for everyone who ever retired and is still living, you will be at a significant disadvantage.  Same for medical care of retirees.  If your labor costs are 18% and your competition's are 10%, you are still at a disadvantage.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 10:03:56 PM EST
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But only if you create more than your share of retirees and medical cases... Universal health care might be cheaper for them overall, because universal health care is much more efficient than having an insurance industry middleman to take a largish cut. But the money comes from somewhere - and I hardly think European or Japanese companies, automobile industry or otherwise, share a smaller fraction of their earnings with society than American ones.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 10:11:42 AM EST
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FWIW, CorpWatch posted a disturbing TQM article this Sept on Toyota's model. It skirts suppliers' industry and markets -- outsourced. And certainly challenges conventional reverence for Japanese efficiency in US/EU management literature.

Despite this commitment, Toyota's foreign workers in Japan are second-class citizens. On arrival the guest workers' passports are confiscated.  During the first year as "trainees," they are not covered by Japan's labor or minimum wage laws. They work alongside Japanese workers, putting in the same long hours, but often earning less than half the minimum wage - as little as $2.76 an hour, or $479 a month. As guest workers, they are required to remain with the same employer - no matter how bad the working conditions - and to live in the company housing assigned to them - even though some are charged twice what their Japanese colleagues pay for comparable accommodations. Any worker who tries to change jobs, or who complains about conditions may be forcibly deported. By the time food, housing, and taxes are deducted, some guest workers end up earning less than $600 for an entire year, according to several advocacy organizations and unions that work with subcontract plant temp and guest workers. ...

In the U.S., Toyota has set up non-union plants in the South - far from the unionized auto industry stronghold of the Midwest. Blunting support for unionization is Toyota's practice of paying wages nearly on par with the U.S. auto companies (around $25 an hour in comparison with G.M.'s $26 to $28) - although with much lower benefits.

Meanwhile the Big Three's falling sales and market share have forced the American companies to adopt, and their workers to accept, two-tier wage and temporary worker schemes eerily similar to those used for years by Toyota - just to compete. And the race to the bottom seems to be just warming up. In September 2008, an internal Toyota memo leaked from its Georgetown, Kentucky plant, laid out management's plans to cut $300 million in labor costs in its U.S. operations.

In April 2008, the Wall Street Journal reported that Toyota plans to end its practice of pegging its hourly wages to UAW rates, and will now pay new hires only 50 percent above the local prevailing wage. In Kentucky, this would mean a savings of about 12 percent, or $3.00 per worker hour - which, of course, will put even more of a squeeze on the Big Three U.S. auto companies and their unionized workforce.

Primary strategy. The 2007 GM-UAW contract was the first "bailout" scheme, to capitalize GM's bond rating and pensions in exchange for slashing wages. At the time Gettlefinger said, union members had made enough sacrifices to allow GM to be competitive with non-union automakers. But he's hinted recently bosses aren't averse to breaking the line in order to support the automakers' pitch to Congress for $34B.

The complete Toyota report is at NICNet.org

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:15:28 AM EST
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but but isn't that exactly the issue with greencards in the US. Contractors are brought in from abroad, but on a scheme where the company can claim they cannot employ Americans. The workers don't get a green card, but are instead are only allowed leave to remain courtesy of good relations with their employer. any problems, any grumbling, they're deported.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 06:55:26 AM EST
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A lot probably depends on what kind of visa they're here on.  I think the situation you're thinking of is sort of a horror story about H-1B visas that you hear about Indians and Chinese in places like Silicon Valley.

Doesn't generally happen that way, in my experience.

Example: A friend of mine is married to a Frenchman[1] who came over on (I'm pretty sure) an H-1B, and who was in the process of getting a green card when they started dating.  The process is expensive and a pain in the ass, but it's a pretty boring and formal process.  I don't think his employer cared much either way.

[1] (See, Jerome, we love the French, even in the South.  And he's not even one of those fake Canadian ones.)

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 08:42:09 AM EST
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but but isn't that exactly the issue with greencards in the US.

Why, yes, Helen :) picking scabs is an age-old American pasttime. When when labor organizes and agitates and  wage demands squeeze margins, corporates shanghai recruit the world's poor and yearning to be free. By the boat-load.

Oh. That scrubbed Detroit News article, "$10M cost of do-over is obstacle; powerbrokers in Mich. to press solution with national party"? I saved bits I thought interesting back when... March 2008.

The governor, in an interview with The Detroit News, referred to the contest as a "firehouse primary" -- more expansive than a party caucus but not a full-blown affair like a traditional, state-financed primary. People would have to declare themselves Democrats in order to participate, and the contest would be run by the Democratic Party, not the state.
    [...]
In another development, a new Michigan team was set up Thursday to talk with the Democratic National Committee about a resolution. The members are: U.S. Sen. Carl Levin, U.S. Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, Democratic National Committeewoman Debbie Dingell and UAW President Ron Gettelfinger. All are neutral in the presidential race.
    [...]
The national party needs to ante up or help raise money to pay for it, she said. State taxpayers already shelled out $12 million for the Jan. 15 primary, and Granholm said she won't ask for public funding for a make-up contest. Hillary Clinton won the January primary, but she was the only major candidate [sic] on the ballot. The others, including Barack Obama, had their names removed.
    [...]
Granholm and state Democratic Party Chairman Mark Brewer said the national party has been pushing for party caucuses. Brewer estimated the cost of running a firehouse primary at $10 million, to cover the mechanics, staff and publicity.

There's always more to the story ...

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 09:18:35 AM EST
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asdf:
For one thing, they drive on the wrong side of the road and Detroit doesn't design their cars to have steering on either side. So that keeps out the vast majority of cars.

That's actually trivial. In a lot of plants around the world, LH and RH drive cars come off the same line.

The problem isn't simply not having small-car designs either: they do - in Europe (the Ford Fiesta is simply the first one that comes to mind).

The US carmakers chose to neglect the economy segment - and now they're paying for it.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:11:40 AM EST
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You are absolutely correct, Ford & GM on a global level know how to build cars that can be assembled for RHD or LHD markets. But the question is about the Detroit segments of Ford & GM. How many Detroit designed cars with wrong-side steering are driving around in Britain or Australia or Japan?
by asdf on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 10:59:39 AM EST
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At a minimum Ford makes right hand drive cars for the AU and NZ markets.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:45:32 AM EST
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in Japan and South Korea, and does matter. US companies do compete in Europe and are reasonably successful at it, against both Europeans and Japanese.

The problem is that the US market focused, thanks to insanely low gas prices (due to lack of taxation) on bigger and bigger cars, and Detroit did respond to what the market wanted - and fed that demand too, because they had an advantage in the light-truck sub sector.

Demand has shifted brutally because the impact of gas prices is much stronger in the US than elsewhere, and the Big 3 are weaker in the smaller segments - they simply haven't marketed their products as "no-nonsense" cars, and it takes more than a few years to change your product mix.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:57:00 AM EST
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Sorry, how is protectionism real in Japan with respect to cars?

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 06:32:22 AM EST
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Are you claiming that Japanese crs are so superior that no Japanese person would consider buying a foreign car?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 02:45:22 PM EST
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I have traveled to South Korea several times in the early 90s: the streets were full of Hyundai, Daewoo, Kia and SSongyang cars & trucks. A few token Mercedes and also a few American vehicles (US troops).

Not a single Japanese car: zero, none. Probably the only country in the world (with North Korea?). It was really striking.

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.

by Bernard on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:17:15 PM EST
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No.  I am asking:  What quotas, tariffs, regulations, or other kind of obstacle have been imposed by the Japanese government with the primary intent of keeping foreign automobiles out of the Japanese market.  Because that is the definition of protectionism as I understand it.  And so far I have not heard anyone providing any examples of this.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:21:17 PM EST
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From the viewpoint of Detroit automakers, a barrier is that they drive on the left...
by asdf on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 07:48:59 PM EST
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Defending The American Car Industry
On the one hand they have kept their home market as a protected sanctuary, where they often garner superrich profits.

GM makes: Cadillac, Saab, Hummer, Corvette and Chevy SUVs.

Ford Japan: Mustang and SUVs.

Chrysler: PT Cruiser, Grand Voyager, 300C, 300C Touring

I would send you the link, but like their cars, the website is overweight and cumbersome, takes ages to load up each page.  They apparently only care about people who like fat cars and fat bandwidth.

Although in the ultra-chic parts of Tokyo you do see SUVs once in a while, and even (though very rarely) a hummer (which looks absolutely ridiculous on the streets of Tokyo), most Japanese don't go in for the sort of models that Detroit produces.

Zwackus has a better handle on the Japanese car market than I do, but that's my take on it.

Also, a friend of mine living in Japan points out:

Almost 3M small cars and 1.4M of the ultra small "Kei" cars that Detroit doesn`t even make. Those two categories are 3/4 of the total domestic market. The Big Three are focused on the small, high end market which is already crowded with European makers that have more prestige.

On the other hand, this does not address the issues of workers' benefits, especially to retirees, that Japanese makers do not have to pay, apparently, in their U.S. factories.  But I believe asdf makes a good reply to that point:

My understanding is that the labor cost in a car is only about 10% of the total. It's a capital intensive business, and Japan has pretty high labor costs just as does the U.S.

Having said all this, I still think bailing out GM may be the right thing to do to prevent 2-3 million jobs from vanishing, especially after listening to this:

The Big Three U.S. Auto Makers Head Back to Washington

But this all might be moot, as one month is not a lot of time to do this in.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:11:16 AM EST
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Yes; all that, plus no one has mentioned that the Japanese do a lot of intervention to keep the value of the Yen down. With this, they can provide a lot of exports and capture a lot of American dollars. They, along with the Chinese have the bulk of foreign owned US Treasuries...though not as much as HomelandOwners do.

Also, America is a huge market with only a few competitors for the Japanese. They haven't gone into Europe as extensively, and couldn't, as the local market is so strong in most countries.

I also leaning toward protecting current jobs with FutureIncomeTaxesNOWTM. But...One just wonders, what lasting good will come of two months of pouring 8 billion into GM? What happens in February that they will suddenly be able to be on their feet and join rdf's dancing plan? The economy is not going to be magically triumphant after O'Bama's InauguralSpeechOfDestiny. There are still too many houses yet to go into foreclosure and too many companies who rely upon consumers...who just happen to be either out of money, or (gawds forbid) saving money...yes, Americans actually taking money out of the system by saving...a good thing in most regards, but a giant bad thing in an economy that needs their Spend-O-RamaSensation to keep the carousel spinning...in this case the car companies' carousel...which ain't gonna happen in February unless they use the 34 billion to buy everyone cars - no payments, no interest, pre-bought car, BankErrorInYourFavor - Free cars for everyone.

As for Detroit wages, I just can't believe that they are higher than in Bavaria, minus the health and welfare aspect, which is so poorly done in the heretofore non-socialist America.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 08:27:41 AM EST
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I can't exactly see the japanese car market as being numerically equivalent to the US one, even if I understand the precedent it creates.

However, all developing economies require protectionism : One of the defining qualities of "free trade" is that it prevents establshed economies from competitors due to their inherent strutural advantages.
Japan has simply retained a legacy flag carrier from a period of relative weakness. They may no longer need it, but it fulfills a cultural requirement.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 06:51:15 AM EST
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Helen: Japan has simply retained a legacy flag carrier from a period of relative weakness. They may no longer need it, but it fulfills a cultural requirement.

Japan eliminated import tariffs on all cars in 1978.

Then in 2002 it proposed to the WTO that all developed industrialized countries drop all tariffs on passenger cars, trucks and auto parts (on which it has no tariffs), but the European Union rejected the proposal.  (At the time the EU had tariffs of "around 10 percent on passenger vehicles, 22 percent on trucks and five percent on parts", according to this article.)

So tell me, what "cultural requirement" was the EU fulfilling by maintaining these tariffs despite the fact that Japan having none?  Was this an anticipation of the "cooperative protectionism" recently advocated for Europe by Emmanuel Todd?

And to repeat my question to Jerome above, how is Japan being protectionist in the automobile market?  (It may very well be, but I would like to understand exactly how, as there seems such an assure consensus on this claim.)

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 07:15:54 AM EST
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Protectionism doesn't have to mean import taxes.

I've heard from various people that trying to sell foreign products in Japan can be unusually interesting. Regulations can make it very difficult to open stores, never mind local factories, and there's a certain background level of xenophobia and exceptionalism which means that Japanese buyers only take foreign products seriously if their brand is seen as having high status.

Just because it's an open market in theory doesn't mean that it's open in practice.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 08:20:59 AM EST
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Plus the government's continuous effort to keep the value of the yen way way down. When it goes up, just by a little bit, they lose exports by the beaucoup.

On the opposite side, imports are comparatively exceedingly high (than say, if the yen were at 2 to the dollar), which fits their market just fine.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 08:45:07 AM EST
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Breaking The Bank: European Interest Rates Tumble - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International
The stark reduction, which was greater than most analysts had predicted, shows the the ECB is serious about fighting the financial crisis, which has plunged Europe into a recession. Lower interest rates tend to stimulate the economy by loosening credit markets and making borrowing cheaper. Ever since the New York investment bank Lehman Brothers filed for bankruptcy on Sept. 15, credit markets have been extremely reluctant to take on any additional risk, making it virtually impossible for many companies to secure loans.

Although most economists had predicted only a half-point cut from the ECB, not all were surprised that the central bankers decided to take such drastic action. "Given how weak the economic data has been, the rate cuts are not so surprising," said Rainer Sartoris, an economist at HSBC Trinkaus, in an interview with Reuters. "They needed to have rates come down more quickly than before."

Central banks in the UK and in Sweden announced even greater rate cuts, stealing some of the ECB's thunder. Rainer Guntermann, an economist at Dresdner Kleinwort told Reuters that the ECB's cut, although the greatest in its history, is less impressive when compared to the action taken in Stockholm and London. "They clearly have an even more dramatic assessment of global conditions," he said.

British central bankers cut their rate by a full percentage point to just two percent, leaving rates at their lowest levels since 1939.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:49:26 PM EST
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FT.com / Europe - Europe's banks slash rates

Interest rates were slashed on a historic scale across Europe on Thursday as central banks reacted aggressively to the sudden and brutal deterioration in the economic outlook since the autumn.

The European Central Bank announced a three-quarters of a percentage point cut in its main policy interest rate to 2.5% - its largest cut ever - just hours after Sweden's central bank surprised markets by reducing the country's official borrowing costs by a record 175 basis points. The Bank of England slashed its rates by another 1 percentage point to 2 per cent, equal to the lowest rate since the central bank was founded in 1694.

Even though none of the European central banks gave any encouragement to traders betting on further rate cuts, financial markets have already priced in another 0.5 percentage point reduction in the eurozone by February, and a fall to 1 per cent in the UK in the near future.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 04:06:50 PM EST
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British central bankers cut their rate by a full percentage point to just two percent, leaving rates at their lowest levels since 1939.
It is likely that we have not seen such economic stress since 1939.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 09:35:41 PM EST
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Asia Times Online :: China News, China Business News, Taiwan and Hong Kong News and Business.
TOKYO - China, faced with factory closures and slowing export growth as the global economy slows, is apparently prepared to weaken the value of its currency against the US dollar in defiance of a key policy goal of the United States, even as US Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson visits Beijing this week.

A weaker yuan, which would signal an about-turn by Beijing after three years of appreciation, will help to hold down prices of China's exports, raising the likelihood of further increases in its already contentiously high trade surplus with the US. At the same time, a lower yuan will make imports to China from the US more expensive at a time when American workers are fast losing jobs as factories there close on falling demand at home and abroad.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 04:25:54 PM EST
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VOA News - China Urges US to Stabilize Its Own Economy
Chinese Vice Premier Wang Qishan opened the two-day Strategic Economic Dialogue by calling for the United States to stabilize its own economy.

Wang also urged Washington to protect Chinese investments in the United States.

The Chinese vice premier said China is willing to work with the United States on the most pressing issue - coping with the global financial turmoil.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 04:26:32 PM EST
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Bloomberg.com: Worldwide

Dec. 4 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is pressing for a stronger yuan at talks that started in Beijing today, just three days after the currency's biggest drop since the nation scrapped a fixed exchange rate in 2005.

"A spanner's been thrown into the works," said Dwyfor Evans, a strategist with State Street Global Markets in Hong Kong. "It may mean a more heated debate on the currency."

The fifth round of the Strategic Economic Dialogue between China and the U.S. is a swansong for Paulson, who initiated the talks and will exit with the Bush administration. The currency appreciation that he's applauded -- a 20 percent gain since the end of a peg to the dollar -- may be wound back as President Hu Jintao seeks to protect exporters from the global recession.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 04:27:51 PM EST
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Even if Hu Jintao wants to protect Chinese exporters from collapsing US consumer demand by figuring out how to provide US consumers with some of the US $ denominated reserves which the Chinese hold, I doubt that even that would help.  Most would save the money if they could. Few in the USA will spend much on anything that  they don't absolutely have to have.  That is unlikely to change until they see solid reasons for optimism about their own personal situations.  

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 09:45:14 PM EST
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look at the articles above that say that while retails sales are sharply down, Wal-Mart is doing just fine - presumably thanks to all its cheap Chinese products.

China's mercantilist policies can work as long as they are willing to finance US debt, and it seems they are. It won't solve the overall crisis, it will just mean that Americans still live above their (reduced) means, and the problem remain for later...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 04:02:31 AM EST
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But only as long as the rest of the world accepts either dollars or yuan for the raw materials that go into the Chinese manufacturing plant...

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 10:33:25 AM EST
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Wal-Mart is the low cost retailer in the US and has relentlessly squeezed the cost out of their supply chain. China is the most important supplier of clothing, artificial Christmas Trees, low end hand tools, low end electronics, etc. and Wal-Mart sales are up 3% over last year.  But Wal-Mart also is also a major grocer and druggist in many states.  Where it sells groceries, it usually has the broadest selection in town, (usually small to medium sized towns--<50,000.)

Some of its increase may be due to grocery and drug sales to customers that previously shopped more up-scale shops.  Those stores, J.C.Penny, Macy's, etc have been hit hard, down double digits in many cases.  They also bought from China and are cutting back hard.    It will get much worse, and soon.  Unemployment is accelerating.  Can China live by Wal-Mart alone?

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 11:47:09 AM EST
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China wealth fund lacks stomach for financial buys | Deals | Mergers & Acquisitions | Reuters

HONG KONG (Reuters) - China Investment Corp, the sovereign wealth fund that has incurred steep paper losses on its stakes in U.S. financial firms, said on Wednesday it is "not brave enough" to invest in foreign financial firms and lacks confidence in the shifting U.S. financial regulatory situation.

"It's changing every week. How can I be confident?," Lou Jiwei, chairman of CIC, said during the Clinton Global Initiative event in Hong Kong, referring to U.S. government efforts to rescue the devastated financial services sector.

He said the fund continued to make investments overseas, and was looking to diversify geographically to include emerging economies.

"We are still actively making investments outside, and we will continue our investments," he said during a panel discussion.

Lou made his remarks just ahead of talks scheduled in Beijing between U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Chinese officials in the fifth round of a so-called "strategic economic dialogue" that Paulson initiated in 2006.

Lou said the world should not look to China to resolve the financial crisis.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 04:28:38 PM EST
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Freescale and NXP can't repay debts, says BNP Paribas

There is no way that Freescale and NXP can repay the debt which has been loaded on to them by their private equity owners, according to Jerome Ramel, of Exane BNP Paribas, talking this morning to the European Nanoelectronics Forum 2008 in Paris. "There is no way they can repay the debt they have", said Ramel.

The debt imposed on Freescale and NXP by their private equity owners, Blackstone and KKR, could not be repaid even if they are broken up and sold off piece-meal, said Ramel, so the only way forward for them is consolidation. "Refinancing will kill some businesses," Ramel told the Forum.

Asked by Electronics Weekly how Freescale and NXP would cope with the re-financings they will be obliged to undergo starting in 2011, Ramel replied: "Freescale was bought at 4 times sales, NXP at 1.6 times sales. The valuations were too high. The private equity companies thought there was something wrong about an industry which operated without any debt."


I have worked in the semiconductor industry for countless years; it has always been very cash intensive. Such a big amount of money attracted the attention of private equity who convinced Motorola and Philips to sell them their semiconductor branches. The new owners loaded their acquisitions with debt (this was the time when money was cheap), debt that is now compromising the very future of these companies. Oh yes, the PE guys and their bankers got their fees, thank you very much.

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
by Bernard on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 05:07:43 PM EST
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This is '70 redux.  I saw solid companies such as Altec Sound Company, heir to the work of the Bell Labs, fitted out with as much debt with which it could conceivably stagger forward  and "spun off" to stagnate and die by the conglomerate of Ling-Tempco-Vaught.  They could no longer even keep up, let alone lead in their field.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 09:57:49 PM EST
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Alstom's problems just 5 years ago came from the fact that it was spun off by its previous owners (Alcatel and Marconi) without any cash on its balance sheet, as they kept it.

And big engineering companies need such cash to be able to survive glitches or downturns. In that case, Alstom was brought to its knees by problems on its new gas turbines (purchased from ABB with probably not enough due diligence, but that's another issue) which required it to pay massive penalties to clients.

With the cash, it would still have had the problems, but would have survived the episode.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 04:06:31 AM EST
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