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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:33:13 PM EST
Scientists urge caution on global warming - Politico.com Print View
Climate change skeptics on Capitol Hill are quietly watching a growing accumulation of global cooling science and other findings that could signal that the science behind global warming may still be too shaky to warrant cap-and-trade legislation. 

While the new Obama administration promises aggressive, forward-thinking environmental policies, Weather Channel co-founder Joseph D'Aleo and other scientists are organizing lobbying efforts to take aim at the cap-and-trade bill that Democrats plan to unveil in January.

So far, members of Congress have not been keen to publicly back the global cooling theory. But both senators from Oklahoma, Republicans Tom Coburn and Jim Inhofe, have often expressed doubts about how much of a role man-made emissions play.

"We want the debate to be about science, not fear and hypocrisy. We hope next year's wave of new politics means a return to science," said Coburn aide John Hart. "It's the old kind of politics that doesn't consider any dissenting opinions."

The global cooling lobby's challenge is enormous. Next year could be the unfriendliest yet for climate skeptics. Already, House Energy and Commerce Chairman John Dingell (D-Mich.) has lost his gavel, in part because his peers felt he was less than serious about tackling global warming.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:55:14 PM EST
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Tracking 'The Gore Effect' - Erika Lovley - Politico.com
On Oct. 22, Gore's global warming speech at Harvard University coincided with near 125-year record-breaking low temperatures. And less than a week later, on Oct. 28, the British House of Commons held a marathon debate on global warming during London's first October snowfall since 1922.

While there's no scientific proof that The Gore Effect is anything more than a humorous coincidence, some climate skeptics say it may offer a snapshot of proof that the planet isn't warming as quickly as some climate change advocates say.

"You can't fool Mother Nature," said climate skeptic scientist and meteorologist Joseph D'Aleo. "We used to kid in forecasting that whenever we were very certain about a major forecast, it would wind up being so dead wrong that we'd be embarrassed. It certainly makes you think."
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:58:32 PM EST
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nobody said the whole wolrd would get warmer, it was just that there would be more enrgy in weather systems, hotter and colder, wetter and drier whilst being windier and stormier generally. More extreme weathers.

I still think that what we're seeing is related to the el Nina and solar minimum combination that, if so, will bugger up next year as well.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 05:24:27 PM EST
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I would be more convinced were the polar ice caps expanding and glaciers growing and were so many of the "skeptics" not so obviously self interested.  There is evidence that increased particulate air pollution, especially at stratospheric levels, does have a cooling effect, but do we really want the atmosphere of the entire planet to look like that of Beijing one month prior to the Olympics?

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 10:19:46 PM EST
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Politico's journalistic malpractice | Gristmill: The environmental news blog | Grist

Today brings two of the most jaw-droppingly moronic stories I've ever seen, both in Politico, both written by Erika Lovley, who one can only assume is either the most dimwitted, gullible reporter in D.C. or ... um, I can't think of another explanation.

Remember those articles you'd see five years ago, "balanced" stories on global warming science quoting the same small group of deniers, citing the same debunked myths, and conspicuously failing to reference a single peer-reviewed scientific paper or reputable scientific organization? The ones you thought self-respecting media organizations had finally tired of running?

These are worse than that.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:59:56 PM EST
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Can we move these wankers to one of the islands that's due to be submerged soon and take away the boats and ask them again what they think?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:59:58 PM EST
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Think?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 04:29:38 PM EST
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[wipes tea spray off screen}

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 05:25:37 PM EST
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Boy I hope Nomad shows up (and has time to put this in perspective).

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:20:41 AM EST
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Florida congresswoman, fearing spoof, hangs up on Obama

When President-elect Barack Obama called Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen at her South Florida district office Wednesday, she hung up on him.

'I thought: 'Why would Obama want to call a little slug on the planet like me?' '' Ros-Lehtinen said.

A short time later, Rahm Emanuel, Obama's designated chief of staff, called. Ros-Lehtinen hung up on him, too.

''I thought it was one of the radio stations in South Florida playing an incredible, elaborate, terrific prank on me,'' Ros-Lehtinen said. ``They got Fidel Castro to go along. They've gotten Hugo Chavez and others to fall for their tricks. I said, 'Oh, no, I won't be punked'.''

Ros-Lehtinen was in Miami when she received Obama's first call about 1 p.m. on her cell phone from a Chicago-based number. The person on the line told Ros-Lehtinen, a Republican, that the President-Elect would like to speak to her.

A man, who Ros-Lehtinen said sounded like Obama, got on the line and congratulated her on her reelection and said he was looking forward to working with her as the ranking Republican member of the House Foreign Affairs committee.

The conversation lasted just a minute when Ros-Lehtinen cut Obama off, telling him she wasn't falling for the hoax and that he was a better impersonator than the guy on Saturday Night Live.

Then Emanuel called, and she hung up on him. It finally took Rep. Howard Berman, chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee, to persuade Ros-Lehtinen that the president-elect indeed wanted to talk to her.

''I asked Howard to tell me a private joke we share about colleagues in the House to make sure it really was him,'' Ros-Lehtinen said. ``When he did, I realized it was the real deal.''

Now if Congress were only as skeptical when the blood and treasure of the nation are on the line.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 05:06:00 PM EST
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Ros-Lehtinen:

'Why would Obama [and Emanuel!] want to call a little slug on the planet like me?'

Gee, could it be her legislative initiative?

H.Res 154, expressing concerns about the involvement of the Russian Government in Mr. Litvinenko's death and the security and proliferation of radioactive materials;

H.Res 125, expressing concern over Hezbollah's tactic of embedding its forces among civilians to use them as human shields during the summer of 2006 conflict between Hezbollah and the State of Israel;

H.R.2332, strengthening sanctions against the Government of Syria, to enhance multilateral commitment to address the Government of Syria's threatening policies, to establish a program to support a transition to a democratically-elected government in Syria;

H.Res 897, recognizing the strategic importance of the African continent and welcoming the establishment of AFRICOM;

H.R.1357, requiring divestiture of current investments in Iran, to prohibit future investments in Iran, and to require disclosure to investors of information relating to such investments;

and so on and so forth.


Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:51:49 AM EST
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BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | 'Solar taxi' goes round the world

A solar-powered car has arrived at the UN climate change talks in the Polish city of Poznan after a round-the-world trip covering almost 40 countries.

At the wheel of the "solar taxi" was Swiss teacher Louis Palmer who made the 52,000km (32,000 mile) 17-month trip.

He said the feat proved solar power was a viable alternative to oil-based fuels and could help fight global warming.

But he said the prototype would need serious modification before it could be mass produced.

The small blue-and-white three-wheeler tows a trailer packed with batteries charged by the sun. It can travel for 300km on a single charge and reach speeds of 90km/h (55mph).

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 12:07:22 AM EST
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'Hitler was the perfect boss': Former maid breaks her silence on the 'charming' dictator | Mail Online

... 'He was a charming man, someone who was only ever nice to me, a great boss to work for. You can say what you like, but he was a good man to us.'

Rosa's remembrances of life at the court of the tyrant make gripping reading. She saw leading Nazis come and go. Himmler, the evil party secretary; Bormann, whom she described as a 'dirty pig'; and the club-footed, sexually-obsessed propaganda minister Goebbels.

Rosa went into Hitler's service at the age of 15 in 1932 when she was Rosa Krautenbacher. Her sister Anni had worked as a cook at Hitler's Berchtesgaden retreat since the late 1920s.

'She said he needed a housemaid and I would fit the bill,' Rosa recalled. 'I remember so clearly the first day I spoke to him in the kitchen. I said I was Anni's sister and that made him smile, because Anni was his favourite. I only ever knew Hitler as a kindly man who was good to me.'



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 07:59:34 AM EST
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