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but but isn't that exactly the issue with greencards in the US. Contractors are brought in from abroad, but on a scheme where the company can claim they cannot employ Americans. The workers don't get a green card, but are instead are only allowed leave to remain courtesy of good relations with their employer. any problems, any grumbling, they're deported.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 06:55:26 AM EST
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A lot probably depends on what kind of visa they're here on.  I think the situation you're thinking of is sort of a horror story about H-1B visas that you hear about Indians and Chinese in places like Silicon Valley.

Doesn't generally happen that way, in my experience.

Example: A friend of mine is married to a Frenchman[1] who came over on (I'm pretty sure) an H-1B, and who was in the process of getting a green card when they started dating.  The process is expensive and a pain in the ass, but it's a pretty boring and formal process.  I don't think his employer cared much either way.

[1] (See, Jerome, we love the French, even in the South.  And he's not even one of those fake Canadian ones.)

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 08:42:09 AM EST
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but but isn't that exactly the issue with greencards in the US.

Why, yes, Helen :) picking scabs is an age-old American pasttime. When when labor organizes and agitates and  wage demands squeeze margins, corporates shanghai recruit the world's poor and yearning to be free. By the boat-load.

Oh. That scrubbed Detroit News article, "$10M cost of do-over is obstacle; powerbrokers in Mich. to press solution with national party"? I saved bits I thought interesting back when... March 2008.

The governor, in an interview with The Detroit News, referred to the contest as a "firehouse primary" -- more expansive than a party caucus but not a full-blown affair like a traditional, state-financed primary. People would have to declare themselves Democrats in order to participate, and the contest would be run by the Democratic Party, not the state.
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In another development, a new Michigan team was set up Thursday to talk with the Democratic National Committee about a resolution. The members are: U.S. Sen. Carl Levin, U.S. Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, Democratic National Committeewoman Debbie Dingell and UAW President Ron Gettelfinger. All are neutral in the presidential race.
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The national party needs to ante up or help raise money to pay for it, she said. State taxpayers already shelled out $12 million for the Jan. 15 primary, and Granholm said she won't ask for public funding for a make-up contest. Hillary Clinton won the January primary, but she was the only major candidate [sic] on the ballot. The others, including Barack Obama, had their names removed.
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Granholm and state Democratic Party Chairman Mark Brewer said the national party has been pushing for party caucuses. Brewer estimated the cost of running a firehouse primary at $10 million, to cover the mechanics, staff and publicity.

There's always more to the story ...

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 09:18:35 AM EST
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