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European Salon de News, Discussion et Klatsch - 1. December | 116 comments (116 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Interesting how the comics (4.00 / 2)

in the newspapers can approach a subject where MSM dare not tread.

The music's over. I've turned out the lights. Bye Bye.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Dec 1st, 2008 at 06:52:12 AM EST
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Re: Interesting how the comics (none / 0)

LOL! Now that you brought the subject up, I have seen many more insightful political cartoons and comics than op-eds and news articles! I guess that is a traditional role of comedy, like the court jester. Bring to the fore those things others can't say.

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.

by ARGeezer (argeezer a in a circle yahoo dot com) on Mon Dec 1st, 2008 at 08:43:55 AM EST
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Indeed, the court jester traditionally (cf King Lear and the Fool) was allowed (encouraged?) to say things to his master that no-one else could say without losing his or her head. But the message had to be couched in indirect terms - as a song, a riddle or a poem. The skill of presentation (cf 'Duelling' - the forerunner of rap) alleviated the latent criticism.

A rapper can say things about his 'opponent' that, said directly, would result in gunplay.

There is a whole list of Chinese movies that were critical of the Mao and Post-Mao period - at the time - that were political allegories, if you understood the symbolism. The scripts for these movies were so successfully obfuscated that they passed the censors.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Dec 1st, 2008 at 09:03:42 AM EST
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I think Beneath the Planet of the Apes was the first Hollywood production to feature protests against the Vietnam war, Conquest of the Planet of the Apes the first to feature rioting blacks against the police, and Battlestar Galactica portrayed the Iraq occupation form the pov of the occupied.

That which can not be said, can be said if it is space movies with apes and robots.

by A swedish kind of death on Mon Dec 1st, 2008 at 10:58:53 AM EST
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Re: Interesting how the comics (none / 0)

Now perhaps we need a TV series How to Loot a Nation. It could be done along the lines of the Sopranos, Deadwood, Mad Men, etc. ET would probably contribute plot lines, situations and jokes as a public service. That is probably the only way a wider understanding of how we got here and a possible way out could be embedded in the brains of more than a tiny few.

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.

by ARGeezer (argeezer a in a circle yahoo dot com) on Mon Dec 1st, 2008 at 11:08:53 AM EST
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Re: Interesting how the comics (none / 0)

The bit where Bush gets a hernia lifting George Washington's writing desk into a U-Haul helicopter is particularly amusing. The fact that Blackie, while his master is immobilised, starts to hump him, only adds to the mirth of the attendant marines as well as us at home. While some may find the humour closely related to the Whitehall Farce - and indeed some trousers do descend inauspiciously in the first episode: 'Emission Accomplished' - the hand of Judd Apatow is clearly evident.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Dec 1st, 2008 at 01:47:28 PM EST
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Re: Interesting how the comics (none / 0)

That would be the epilogue, while the credits are running. I had in mind starting it during the Nixon Administration, with Chendy, Rummy, Miltie, Jerry F, Barry, Ronnie and freinds and a host of Democrats. Change the names to protect the guilty, but make everyone identifiable, with traditional fictional disclaimers.

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.

by ARGeezer (argeezer a in a circle yahoo dot com) on Mon Dec 1st, 2008 at 06:15:55 PM EST
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Re: Interesting how the comics (none / 0)

Or change the guilty to protect the names...

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Dec 1st, 2008 at 07:11:03 PM EST
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Re: Interesting how the comics (none / 1)

To me, there's a difference between intentional concealed criticism and having narratives work on multiple levels by exploiting the zeitgeist.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Dec 1st, 2008 at 12:47:49 PM EST
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Re: Interesting how the comics (none / 0)

And you think these was not intentional?

by A swedish kind of death on Tue Dec 2nd, 2008 at 12:40:56 AM EST
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