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Hmmm that last diagram is especially Dubious. of the six 'dimensions' the vertical two arent opposites (and are part of a set of six)

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by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Nov 7th, 2008 at 08:16:21 AM EST
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could you elaborate on why

  • you think the diagrams are dubious
  • you use a D in dubious
  • eros and agape are not opposed
  • what
    (and are part of a set of six)
    adds to your suggestion that the vertical 'dimensions' are not opposites
by emilmoller (emil@beyondthewalls.eu) on Fri Nov 7th, 2008 at 09:22:41 AM EST
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As to why eros and agape are not opposed, ask any hippie. Free love is also a way of getting together...
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Fri Nov 7th, 2008 at 09:45:40 AM EST
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well, imo they're not opposed as in being mutually exclusive, but rather different directions of flow of life force:

  • eros: ascending, aspiring towards higher stages of unfoldment (realizing more unity)

  • agape: descending, reaching down to relieve suffering and uplift

both with unhealthy versions: phobos and thanatos, respectively

On the one side of the coin there are the Ascenders who turn away from this world and despise it while desperately attempting to reach the 'devine' world (for the Ascenders liberation is only possible in the 'other'spiritual world, a world that completely transcends this world; the 'imminent' aspect is completely lost. In this case eros is transformed into Phobos- fear of the material world, sexuality and the feminine).

On the other side of the coin there are the Descenders who worship the material world and seek their salvation within, while denying the existence of the underlying principle of life and the spiritual (in this case Agape has become Thanatos).

http://iionline.org/kw/Bauwens-p.pdf
by emilmoller (emil@beyondthewalls.eu) on Fri Nov 7th, 2008 at 10:51:00 AM EST
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