You frequently insist on pushing your view too forcefully in the name of 'robust' debate. Not everybody wants to engage in argument or debates on the same terms that you do. Please try to recognise that. Ad astra per aspera
If Helen (or anybody else) feels bullied or intimidated by the way the discussion unfolded, can you not entertain the thought that maybe sometimes you should step back even if you cannot quite understand the point of view?
Not when she begins the personal attacks - about a comment on Crazy Horse's comment, not on her diary as such, travesties even reasonable requests, to someone else, for some evidence, as "brutal", "trashing", "interrogation", etc. If anyone was adopting a bullying tone it was her and in fact afew suggested to her that it had gone far enough. Nor do I find her claim that she feels bullied plausible when I see that she attempts to play the victim with others - cf. afew saying recently that she was "laying out a false grievance" - as she clearly was.
You frequently insist on pushing your view too forcefully in the name of 'robust' debate. Not everybody wants to engage in argument or debates on the same terms that you do. Please try to recognise that.
"pushing" is a loaded term and "too forcefully" is a matter of opinion - any examples? I don't think my comments are any more "forceful" than those of many people here - we are adults. Helen herself said she could be "robust" in her own defence in reply to afew's suggestion that it had gone far enough. Nobody is obliged to engage in arguments or debates with me, but if they do I will try to present my arguments as well as I can - I don't consider that "pushing" and I don't usally do it so "forcefully" that I use terms like "brutal" etc. if others merely ask me for some evidence to support my claims. I just try to supply the requested evidence. Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
afew suggested to her that it had gone far enough
What I said at that point concerned the exchange between you, not Helen alone. It was obviously heading for the wall, and I wanted to try to calm it down without pulling out the front-pager hat (because that drives otherwise reasonable people mad).