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Or, crazy idea, because I want the people who read this blog to think about things critically instead of simplistically.  It's ok to disgree, but facts remain facts and pointing them out is not a personal insult but an attempt to keep the conversation within the realm of reality.


"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Fri Nov 7th, 2008 at 05:19:26 PM EST
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What "facts" have you pointed out which demonstrate that my argument is equivalent in sophistication to a Hollywood cartoon?  And if my argument has strayed from the "realms of reality", in what way have you proved you have a superior grasp of reality?

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Fri Nov 7th, 2008 at 05:26:20 PM EST
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The existence of leftist authoritarian regimes would seem to invalidate your statement.  My pointing out their existence has obviously upset you.  And yes, I do find vast generalisations about politics cartoonish and formulaic and out of sync with what I have witnessed.  The election of Obama shows that people with left-leaning ideology are craving strong leadership.  Meanwhile, many conservatives are terrified of the power the newly elected leadership will wield.  Everything is not as black and white as you present it.    

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Fri Nov 7th, 2008 at 05:37:56 PM EST
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You conveniently left out the last part of may sentence you quoted: (omitted part in bold)
Frank Schnittger:
Lefties on the other hand will always slam anyone in power - until they get into power themselves.
which was a deliberate jibe at the historical tendency for some anti-establishment lefties to become even more authoritarian when they achieved power themselves.  So pointing out that some leftwingers can be authoritarian doesn't upset me at all.  In fact I stated that:  Frank Schnittger:
The system of global capitalism we live under - dominated by global corporations - is largely American in origin, ideology, design and control.  

Many people recognise that for all its faults - it is better than the competing systems of Nazism and Stalinism it defeated.

And this is not a generalisation?  poemless:

The election of Obama shows that people with left-leaning ideology are craving strong leadership.

Really?  Obama got rather more than the votes of left leaning ideologists.  Most wanted alternate leadership to McCain/Palin, and authoritarianism in an US context seems to be more characteristic of right wingers - left wingers often being called liberals with good reason.

And yes of course there are lots of generalisations in my diary.  There always are in short pieces.  If I want to write an academic piece I will do so in an academic context, and I won't try to write a history of the recent world in 20 paragraphs.

I'm sorry I didn't get to read your diary.  I meant to and perhaps you present an alternate argument there.  However even if I disagreed with it I promise I wouldn't accuse you of a Hollywood cartoon character level of understanding.  I think it helps to be  bit more careful and respectful in your criticisms.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Fri Nov 7th, 2008 at 06:20:20 PM EST
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And I think it helps if you chill out.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Fri Nov 7th, 2008 at 06:23:33 PM EST
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Always happy to chill - and to argue my case - the more so if others accuse me of being incapable of doing so to any worthwhile level.  However I take this as an offer of a truce - and am happy to accept.  I may have mistaken a Manta for a Sting ray...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Fri Nov 7th, 2008 at 06:50:57 PM EST
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