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Premise:  Individual European countries kiss the US's ass instead of genuinely banding together for your own good.

Reason: US is still the super-power.

Question: Why does the US pay attention to Europe at all?  Cultural ties?  

Why would a change in "location of super-powerdom" change Europe's "position" as a focus of interest?  

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Wed Dec 3rd, 2008 at 09:04:22 AM EST
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Again, there are many answers, ranging from inertia to cultural affinity over existing infrastructures.

Somewhat to the point is that the larger European countries are still quite powerful compared to China and India in terms of force projection and that the EU market is much larger than the south and east Asian market (in nominal terms nearly twice as big as India, China and Japan combined).

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Wed Dec 3rd, 2008 at 09:50:55 AM EST
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I think I'm with Migeru on this one: it'll take a generation of politicians that didn't grow up depending on Uncle Sam to protect them from the Big Bad Bear to take power before the instinctive assumption that US interests == European interests wears off.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Dec 3rd, 2008 at 09:52:55 AM EST
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From the sounds of things the Big Bad Bear is just a bunch of thugs with a lot of oil revenue.

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Wed Dec 3rd, 2008 at 10:02:17 AM EST
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Except for the oil revenue, that makes it almost exactly like the US.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Dec 3rd, 2008 at 10:22:46 AM EST
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Seeing as post-communists can be as much Atlanticist as any old Cold Warrior, and seeing the symplistic mythology people even younger than me have absorbed as recent history, I am even more pessimistic. It should take people who fight for some new vision who can break the unrealised pre-assumptions of common wisdom.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 04:10:05 AM EST
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Why does the US pay attention to Europe at all?

It does? That's news to me. Aside, of course, from the minimal fealty that a sovereign is due his vassals, I see very little engagement that goes beyond Sternly Worded Letters and photo-ops.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Dec 3rd, 2008 at 10:15:26 AM EST
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