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Atheist bus adverts could lead to watchdog ruling on God's existence - Telegraph

Officials at the Advertising Standards Authority are now considering whether to tackle the question that has taxed the minds of the world's greatest thinkers for centuries.

It has recorded 48 complaints since Tuesday when buses first hit the streets emblazoned with the message: "There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life." At least 40 more people were understood to have made objections by last night.

Most of those who have contacted the ASA consider the adverts offensive and say they break guidelines on taste and decency.

However Stephen Green, the Christian campaigner who led the protests against the BBC's broadcast of Jerry Springer - The Opera, is claiming they should be taken down because the statement in the adverts cannot be substantiated.

He said: "If you're going to put out what appears to be a factual statement then you have to be able to back it up. They've got to substantiate this proposition that in all probability, God doesn't exist."

The ASA is now considering whether to investigate his complaint, which could lead to it reaching a deep ontological conclusion about a supreme being.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 03:14:26 PM EST
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This is going to be fun, isn't it?
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 03:22:27 PM EST
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Every time i hear the words Supreme Being i can't help thinking of Ralph Richardson in Time Bandits, and break out with a big smile.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 03:31:04 PM EST
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the supreme being enters around 5:00

"One thing i can't stand is a mess."

"Dead?.  No excuse for laying off work."

"Evil.. turned out.. hum hum... rather well."

"I am the Supreme Being, i'm not entirely dim."

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 04:26:14 PM EST
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the discussion will be lawyers arguing what "probably" means rather than a discussion about god...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Jan 11th, 2009 at 08:55:01 AM EST
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Carlsberg have been advertising in the UK for most of my life with the slogan "Probably the best lager in the world..." so I don't see how they can rule against "Probably there's no God."

I think you can make a good case that it's more likely there's no God than it is that Carlsberg is the best lager in the world.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Sun Jan 11th, 2009 at 09:09:44 AM EST
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If Carlsberg were the best lager in the world, that would be a proof of the existence of God?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jan 11th, 2009 at 04:21:26 PM EST
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Probably.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Jan 11th, 2009 at 04:22:23 PM EST
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If some other company were also to advertise their beer as probably the best in the world, could we lodge a complaint that the ads could not both be true? Or can you only complain about one ad at a time?
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Sun Jan 11th, 2009 at 04:28:18 PM EST
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...hof er det ikke værste vi har

Fai de bèn a Bertrand, te lou rendra en cagant
by redstar on Sun Jan 11th, 2009 at 04:29:53 PM EST
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Hvad er værst?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jan 11th, 2009 at 04:36:07 PM EST
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Faxe 10 degrees.

A frankly undrinkable beer.

Fai de bèn a Bertrand, te lou rendra en cagant

by redstar on Sun Jan 11th, 2009 at 05:14:36 PM EST
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That's more objections than we had here in Colorado Springs--center of the evangelical Christian world--when some atheist billboards appeared. Are you sure the Brits aren't a bunch of closet Papists?
by asdf on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 07:43:22 PM EST
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They've got to substantiate this proposition that in all probability, God doesn't exist.

SInce when does "probably" mean "in all probability"?

What could happen here is that these ads could be taken down with the consequence that no ads implying the existence of God could go up either.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jan 11th, 2009 at 09:19:44 AM EST
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But for the latter to happen, you need to have enough people complaining. Maybe the problem is that it's difficult to get enough atheists to file complaints against religious ads?
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Sun Jan 11th, 2009 at 09:27:53 AM EST
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Huh, you only need 40 people to complain, apparently.

Also, once the precendent is establishes that an ad is pulled because metaphysical claims cannot be substantiated, it becomes easier to challenge future ads.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jan 11th, 2009 at 11:44:12 AM EST
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Indeed. They will launch an atheist complaints bank.

...

The 'it offends my sensibilities' claim is more effective. However, this is an organisation uttering its viewpoint, not a company trying to sell some product off the back of controversy slash offended sensibilities. Probably their freedom of no religion / freedom of speech will weigh heavier.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jan 11th, 2009 at 05:28:20 PM EST
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