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Not sure I follow on this one.  In the previous three expirations, the PTC wasn't rebooted until late in the following year (as I recall), so would have a direct effect on that year's installations.  This time 2008 should not be affected by the PTC, with perhaps only some marginal but planned projects not getting financed in Q4 '08.  But the PTC is fully in place before the end of '08 this time, so projects should be able to go forward full tilt as concerns the PTC for '09.

The question then becomes whether a downturn or slower growth in '09 is caused by the meltdown drying up funding or not.  The PTC is there in full force, it's only a question of whether there's equity and debt available.

In other words, i see the meltdown as having a far greater effect on '09 (though only potentially) than the PTC.  More importantly the meltdown affects project finance globally, where the PTC only affects the (large) US sector.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Tue Jan 13th, 2009 at 04:25:05 PM EST
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It's only in 2004 that the PTC was reinstated only in 2004, retroactively for projects built in the early part of the year (not many). In 2000 and 2002, the PTC, just like this year, was reinstated late in the year before.

2008 is a great year for US wind; 2009 will be a very bad year, and would have been even without the financial crisis.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Jan 13th, 2009 at 05:00:17 PM EST
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Agree about the history, but don't you think the US side of the industry is a complete evolution from 2002 & 2004?  Especially the finance component of the industry has evolved greatly, but also on the project development side.  All reasonable players have been crunching pro formas for their sites for years, and up-leveling their resource data and siting plans.  Turbines in frame agreements have been on order, and initial payments are still being made.

IF 2009 is a down year for US wind, or as you say a "very bad year," wouldn't that be strictly attributed to financial conditions, with very little to do with the PTC.

Don't forget that the PTC can now be directly taken by utilities, no small matter, and there is movement in congress to allow other incentives.

Have your discussions with colleagues shown that the PTC is affecting 2009?  I thought most experienced banks were looking forward to financing 2009 projects, with 25 -50 basis points higher fees?

of course, if the US went to a feed-in tariff, that would be too sensible.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Wed Jan 14th, 2009 at 03:08:21 AM EST
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