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I'm reading on Alernet that there might be movement on reforming some of the more insane gun laws in the US and that the NRA are a fading force.

Is that true ? Is Heston drilling for oil ?

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 02:01:15 PM EST
I believe he's drilling for earthworms :-)

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 02:07:05 PM EST
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I was apparently unsuccesfully attempting to suggest he was spinning in his grave

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 02:21:52 PM EST
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There is always an undercurrent in the guns discussion about how the country protects itself from internally-grown terrorists. As we gradually move down scale, first outlawing personally owned pirate ships, then machine guns, and soon fishing dinghys and rubber rafts, at some point the question will arise about whether it makes sense to allow millions of rubes to run around with loaded weapons...
by asdf on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 02:25:34 PM EST
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Whilst pirate ships, fishing dinghys and rubber rafts don't have a constituional clause protecting them i guess they're fair game.

But machine guns, the NRA and thier millions of rubes running around with loaded weapons do tend to hide behind Article II. I always thought that allowing Bush to shred the constitution without rising up invalidated their claim to constitutional protection.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 02:30:26 PM EST
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I'm not so sure about the pirate ships part of it. Article 2 doesn't say anything about the size of the guns that are allowed, or what they are mounted on. Privateers, aka licensed pirates, were used by the U.S. in the early 19th century when fighting the British. Why can't I own an aircraft carrier, for example?

http://www.usmm.org/warof1812.html

Which reminds me of how the U.S. cheated in what we call the War of 1812. The USS Constitution, "Old Ironsides," was classified as a Frigate but was actually substantially bigger than British frigates of the time. Thus, when a British frigate captain engaged her--following the rules of engagement regarding comparative sizes and quantities of ships--he was at an automatic disadvantage. The brits didn't figure this out for a while, but when they did they defined a whole new classification of ships: Big Frigates. We have had you Europeans snookered for a couple of centuries now...  :-)

by asdf on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 02:44:05 PM EST
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Huh ? We had rules of engagement ?? I thought it was just "enemy warship ? Fire !!"

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 02:53:32 PM EST
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Second Amendment, not Article II.  Article II is Executive Power.

...not that it matters, since the executive has been wiping its collective ass with it the past eight years.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:20:30 PM EST
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You licked some ultra-sharp chilli today...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 04:26:39 PM EST
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