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Once again, because it's apparently necessary to point this out.

And for good measure:

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 07:41:58 PM EST
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... but its evidently not Rwanda that is the example, nor having a kleptocracy collapse into civil war next door in the DRC, or hosting a three decade long war in Afghanistan ..

... it would seem that the low technology reduction would be more further east in the Eurasian continent, in that country that looks like a Chicken and which is progressing rapidly through a demographic transition.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 10:02:07 PM EST
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Thanks, nanne.  Very informative graph and map.  One conclusion seems to be that chaos begets fecundity.  So we have a rationale even more compelling than morality alone.  

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Dec 7th, 2008 at 12:58:42 PM EST
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Yes, though I do not know if it is more compelling. Morality factors into reality, it affects decisions being made. Not to go into theology, most people at least want to think of their actions as moral. You have to anticipate this when drawing up policies. If an amoral policy seems much clearer and more effective than a moral policy that's slow and fuzzy, it's probably because you've kept some factors out of the equation.

(this maxim can be applied to economic policy to great effect, I expect)

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Dec 7th, 2008 at 08:37:27 PM EST
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most people at least want to think of their actions as moral.
A corollary of what I call "The First Law of Narcissism:"  Everyone wants to think well of themselves and will go to amazing lengths to do so.  Unfortunately our powers of rationalization even enable folks like Robert Mugabe and George Bush to think well of themselves.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Dec 8th, 2008 at 03:24:27 PM EST
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