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NBC is calling it for Obama.

Clinton just got creamed. I don't think she would have expected this in her worst nightmares.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 06:34:44 PM EST
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Last poll had her ahead by some obscene amount.  This is bigger than simply a caucus advantage for Obama.  This is a massive shift, and I think it probably explains Doyle getting fired.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 06:42:32 PM EST
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Mark Penn is the one who should be out on the streets.

I think Clinton is going to hang in there now at least until Texas. But Texas will be closer than she expects.

Oh - and Obama won a grammy today.

It's going to take more than Clinton's got to turn this around now. My guess is some party grandees will be lining up to have a word with her soon.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 06:52:27 PM EST
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Agreed.  Jabba's gotta go.

Obama has swept all of the big Texas newspapers, too.

It's not entirely impossible to imagine Obama winning there, especially if he's making inroads among the working-class whites and Latinos.  And he may be.  If he closes the gap with those two groups, it's over.

There's also perhaps a certain rally-to-the-leader-to-stop-McCain factor that may play in the next several contests.  The fact that he may be leading her even if you count superdelegates has got to have Camp Clinton freaking out.

And, yeah, Grammys don't hurt, especially when the press will be talking of how he beat out Bill Clinton for it.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 07:00:21 PM EST
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So now you can win a Grammy in the "best spoken word" category by reading your autobiography?

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 07:01:28 PM EST
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They had that one for years.  Bill Clinton's won three of them, and Hillary won one for It Takes a Village.

It wasn't the biography one, though, I believe.  It was the recent one.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 07:04:52 PM EST
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Sure, but a spoken word grammy for an audiobook recording is an insult to true spoken word artists like, say, Sherman Alexie (to name just one I have had the plleasure to see live).

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 07:06:54 PM EST
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You lived in Southern California, center of the Bizarro World that is the entertainment industry, for a few years and yet you really think these Hollywood award shows decide based upon actual merit?

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 07:14:24 PM EST
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I will totally concur with Migs about Sherman Alexie.  Brilliant writer, very funny.  He became a friend during the development of "Smoke Signals," directed by Chris Eyre, which won Sundance.  Being on set for last days of shooting was one of the high points in my life.  The wrap party was over the top.

Sherman was always great at readings, and he sparked many Native kids to develop their writing.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 07:34:04 PM EST
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The Potomac Primary is looking bad for her, too.  And at last night's Jefferson-Jackson dinner in Richmond, they each gave speeches.  Even my mother, a pretty militant Clinton supporter, had to admit Obama shredded all of Clinton's arguments.

He seems to be hitting his stride just when she stumbles, but I'm still hesitant to call it that way, since I'm still spooked from New Hampshire.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 07:03:42 PM EST
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The CNN headline is "Clinton shakes up staff after Obama sweep" which is better than "Clinton Campaign in Turmoil After Obama Sweep."

But not much better.

Looking at the polls for Tuesday:

DC:

Clinton:  ?
Obama:  ?

Note:  I can't believe O isn't going to take this one big.

Maryland:

Clinton: 33%
Obama: 52%

Virginia:

Clinton: 37%
Obama: 52%

So things are looking grim for Senator Inevitable from New York.

by ATinNM on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 07:31:47 PM EST
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And those are among the more favorable polls.  Others had him up 20pts in Maryland and Virginia.

She'll get delegates in DC, but Obama will easily beat her.  Go with me on this when I say, it's only the chattering class that's voting for her there -- the West of the Park crowd.  Beyond them, it's all black folks, students and young professionals in the District.

She's trying to push up her score in the DC exurbs in Virginia, like Manassas and Woodbridge.  Obama will dominate Alexandria and Arlington, I'd guess, as the party machinery has bailed on her for fear of being voted out.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 07:39:27 PM EST
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Go with me on this ...

OK, but only because it's you.  ;-)

...the party machinery has bailed on [Clinton] for fear of being voted out.

Kee-rist!  

by ATinNM on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 07:59:31 PM EST
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Oh, it's been one embarrassment after another for her in NoVa.  She held a rally in Arlington the other day, and a class from the local high school attended as a civics lesson.  One of Clinton's warm-up people shouted, "Who's going to be the next president?"  The response from the kids was, of course, to immediately begin the "O-BAM-A" chant.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 08:02:25 PM EST
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ROTFLMAO!
by ATinNM on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 08:22:57 PM EST
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You know, I want to know, too:  Apparently Clinton's campaign was effectively bankrupt after New Hampshire after raising $150m (part of the reason Doyle got canned).  My question is this:

How in Christ's name did they spend $150m and only make it to January 8th?

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 08:14:13 PM EST
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A picture of Clinton's campaign management:

Running a campaign the Old Fashioned Way has a major burn-rate.  

Penn, all by hisself, has gotten - what? - five million or thereabouts?  

by ATinNM on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 08:21:48 PM EST
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Exactly.  I'd almost feel bad for her if not for all the crap that's gone down in this campaign.  Win or lose, it's pigs at the trough in Camp Clinton.  And now she's falling against McCain, nationwide and in critical states, while Obama's got a 7-8pt lead (and growing).

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 08:33:07 PM EST
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Now it's 59-41% with 79% reporting.  this one might get into Nebraska/Washington territory.

So who will they blame it on this time?  The blacks?  The "latte liberals"?  The kids?  The press?  The money?  The caucus system?  I want to see how Jerome Armstrong and his little minions at MyDD explain this one away.

Nothin' but a bunch of rich, young Negroes in Maine after all.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 07:33:25 PM EST
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The thread on MyDD is shockingly rational until about 75% of the way down.  

 

by ATinNM on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 07:51:29 PM EST
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It's all the fault of the caucus system, of course -- a system that was perfectly fair in their minds when conventional wisdom held that Clinton would have the superior organization on the ground.  Then those little brats in Camp Obama whooped'em, and caucuses were suddenly OMG, it's so teh Da Devil!

I love that Taylor Marsh, that psychopath, is spinning the Doyle firing as a good thing.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 07:58:49 PM EST
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The Obama campaign seems to have pulled a good one on the press with those delegate projections, too.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 08:00:19 PM EST
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