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An armchair observer proposes: There will be no balance, peace, any solution whatsoever in Afghanistan until every single foreign military person (read: western) has left the country.

He also wonders: What is NATO's goal in Afghanistan? To prop up Karzai, evidently, or have I missed something. Any other goal might possibly be achieved only with a full-scale military operation, and what an unwelcome exercise that would turn out to be.

by Quentin on Fri Feb 15th, 2008 at 06:57:31 AM EST
NATO's main goal is to secure the area for an oil pipeline from central Asia to the ocean without crossing Russian or Chinese territory.

Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den Menschen
Volker Pispers
by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Fri Feb 15th, 2008 at 09:54:00 AM EST
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and the reason all talk of nation building, rights of women, ending terrorism, suppressing the opium trade (which is a mainstay of the global banking industry, so good luck!), blah, blah, blah,

does not signify.  

The Afghani war is part of the attempt by the US to take control of the world's oil through force of arms.  This policy was not set by the US Government, but by corporate elites, and is not subject to change.  

The reason it won't change is because it cannot.  The political economy of the US is predicated on endless growth made possible by ever-increasing use of resources and energy.  Without endless growth the US ceases to function.  This is already understood:  It is how money works;  it is how the economy is organized.  

But it is an appetite that cannot be sated.  

Tactics may change--in the face of failure--but the war itself will not.  Like the Iraqi war, it will continue as long as the US exists.  

The Fates are kind.

by Gaianne on Fri Feb 15th, 2008 at 10:39:23 PM EST
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All talk of pipelines in Afghanistan is profoundly ignorant of the reality of pipeline construction.

Pipeline economics - why the Afghan pipeline will NOT be built

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Feb 16th, 2008 at 10:00:59 AM EST
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Your arguments seem rather compelling, but then it remains the question why the US had already finish plans for the war in Afghanistan before 9/11. Or do you think the US has a finished plan to attack just any country in the world.

Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den Menschen
Volker Pispers
by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Sun Feb 17th, 2008 at 05:51:13 PM EST
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Martin:
do you think the US has a finished plan to attack just any country in the world.

Isn't it common knowledge that that the military for most countries that pretend a global reach do this.

From the Military dictionary

contingency planning facilities list program

contingency planning facilities list program (DOD) A joint Defense Intelligence Agency and unified and specified command program for the production and maintenance of current target documentation of all countries of contingency planning interest to US military planners.


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Feb 17th, 2008 at 06:07:28 PM EST
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The plan for the 'war' against Afghanistan, as executed, was drawn up by Dick Clarke in the latter days of the Clinton administration - though it was not approved.

Clinton was concerned about Bin Laden and Al Qaeda because they bombed some embassies and a ship. Clarke was obsessed.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Feb 17th, 2008 at 08:05:49 PM EST
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