BTW, as a (half) American, I have to step in and say Drew has a point. I won't be voting for Hillary Clinton no way no how. I don't need republican friends or the self-described "progressive" gasbags on daily kos to tell me that the Clintons are bad news. Promise me eight more years of the Clintons and their retinue of right-wing gasbags like Robert Rubin, Bill Cohen, Mark Penn, Larry Summers and co? No thanks.

The first eight years of Clinton? Not one legislative accomplishment on behalf of and for the betterment of the lives of real working people in America. Better than the other guys? Depends on your frame of reference, your time horizon and whether or not you think ideological battles lost today ensure decades of policy battles lost tomorrow.

I also think that it is amusing that American "liberals" (whatever this means, sorry the term means little to nothing to me) always insist on sainting their own favorite candidate as "progressive" and having a "progressive voting record" as if there have actually been votes in the US Congress, real honest to god defining votes, over the past 30 years, which would confirm someone is on the left. For god's sake, Overton's window in the halls of legislative power in the US has shifted so far right that the you can't even see the fucking sun rise or set through it anymore.

Full disclosure: I don't like Obama either.

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