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Are they now creationists? When I lived in Germany, their main campaign theme (at least that directed to the general public) seemed to be support for Israel...
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Feb 27th, 2008 at 04:40:59 AM EST
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There's no contradiction there, but maybe you aren't familiar with the full insanity of US Evangelical Christian fundamentalism.

PBC are in part subsidiaries of, in totality fans of, and supported/funded by, the US fundamentalists. Thus they bring forward the entire ideology: the millenarist Christian fundie support for Israel (because the Book of Revelations predicts the re-emergence of Israel and it fighting a big war just before the Apocalypse), creationism as 'science' and 'evilution' as false science, push for homeschooling, abortion is evil.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Feb 27th, 2008 at 04:54:37 AM EST
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German Radical Christians Look to US | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 11.11.2004
PBC leader Gerhard Heinzmann, who has no problem being labelled a Christian fundamentalist, said he was pleased with Bush's re-election.

"There's an extraordinary agreement on issues between our supporters and Bush voters," Heinzmann said, citing opposition to gay marriage and abortion as examples. Both groups "not only elect their government, but also pray for its members," he said. And that's what counts, he added.

...Rüdiger Hauth, who monitors religious sects for the Evangelical Church, Germany's largest Protestant church, in the western German region of Westphalia, said there are ten thousands of supporters. But Richard Ziegert, Hauth's colleague from the southwestern region of Palatinate, believes that there are more than 250,000 radical Christians in the country and US missionaries are increasingly coming to Germany to spread the word.



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Feb 27th, 2008 at 04:58:41 AM EST
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I can absolutely confirm the latter. In Karlsruhe there are some quite strange student organisations, which are bigger than the normal protestant church group. They e.g. offer German courses for foreign students without a fee, and then use the bible as textbook. They sing mostly English songs and have some other habits, which make it clear, that they are US inspired, if not directly supported.

Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den Menschen
Volker Pispers
by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Wed Feb 27th, 2008 at 07:27:18 AM EST
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Ah, don't get me started on the PBC. My aunt was one of their candidates in a Saarland state election - and that says more than enough about the party.

/make your cross where it belongs

"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu

by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Wed Feb 27th, 2008 at 10:03:58 PM EST
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I know about the American crazies. I guess to the extent I thought about it at all, I must have assumed that the PBC was some sort of old-fashioned German Pietist-type thing, with quaint ideas like following the Gospels. It never occurred to me that they had anything to do with the Americans.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Feb 27th, 2008 at 04:42:35 PM EST
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Aw, crap. The fundagelicals are Really Bad News on so many levels. How do we kill that movement off before it takes root in Europe?

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Feb 27th, 2008 at 06:50:31 PM EST
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