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what is the difference between those that are or are not in Ittalics?

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by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 05:30:55 AM EST
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Those that I think represent more populated and thus urgent countries, and note this is an entirely uneducated guess.

Also, do we want a 24th language to fill up the flag table ?

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by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 05:40:21 AM EST
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Latin (Vatican flag) has been suggested. Jérôme has been offered an Esperanto translation - what's a flag for that?

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 05:46:17 PM EST
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Green with white square top right and green star in it. (Had an Esperanto guy as roommate for a year :-) )

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by DoDo on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 05:50:56 PM EST
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I mean top left.

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by DoDo on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 05:52:09 PM EST
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I wouldn't do esperanto, imho this would undermine credibility. Love the thought, and the sentiment behind it, but it is sort of "out there" in a way we probably want to avoid if some "mainstream" attention is pushing this way.

Only EU languages makes sense - we could've done Russian and decided against on that score. Ditto esperanto...and Latin too in my view.

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by redstar on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 05:54:38 PM EST
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I disagree. But maybe the way to do it is to use the 25th place as an 'other languages' link, collecting everything else we get. (Beyond Russian, we should also get Catalan and Welsh, and then we should have at least Basque, Turkish, Arab.)

I also think (but still haven't got feedback from Loefing) that the flags may be better placed below the Stop Blair/Petition... part.

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by DoDo on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 06:00:29 PM EST
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Well, people are throwing around Catalan and Welsh translations and we can't have Russian (spoken as a second language by 6% of the EU population)?

I say we should have Russian, and Catalan and Welsh and Esperanto and whatever else.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 06:52:02 PM EST
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If it's a language spoken by a large number of citizens of the EU, it's fine by me, that's for sure. Large number defined in the tens of thousands, think that covers everything listed except maybe esperanto (though aren't their a lot of those speakers in Poland?)

otoh, if someone offers up klingon I think we should say no.

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by redstar on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 07:05:24 PM EST
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Esperanto does have lots of speakers, though less so among young people.

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by DoDo on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 07:15:36 PM EST
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I figured as much...

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by redstar on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 07:20:31 PM EST
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I'm looking into Irish - neither of us would be up to it, but I'll see if i can find a friend who is.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 05:33:53 AM EST
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My contacts Irish might be too medieval for this

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by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 05:37:36 AM EST
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That would be interesting. I bet no-one would notice.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 05:39:15 AM EST
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ok so fired off requests to get translations into Welsh, Irish, and Polish.

Wether they can at the moment is another matter.

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by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 05:50:29 AM EST
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I think it's Lettish.

I'll do Spanish later today and I'll ask Barbara to do Czech.

We have a Bulgarian friend, my sister might be able to do Romanian though I cannot guarantee it (nor a timeline). Barbara had a teacher married to a Maltese translator, though that's a long shot.

Your list is missing Slovak.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 05:34:06 AM EST
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He does have 'Slovakian'.

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by DoDo on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 05:36:14 AM EST
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My Mental abilities are severely impaired by the flu this morning.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 05:42:11 AM EST
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DO you need help?

Late at night I can work on it...

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by kcurie on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 06:47:32 AM EST
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Lettonian (?)

Latvian. Also: Welsh, Catalan, Romani, Russian, Turkish, and any other people are willing.

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by DoDo on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 05:39:22 AM EST
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Anything with a wikipedia flag with creative commons or public domain licence is ok by me...

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by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 05:41:56 AM EST
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Swahili, Arabic, Mandarin, Japanese...

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 05:45:44 AM EST
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Are you having 'delirium' of grandeur, like feverdreams? :-)

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 05:47:12 AM EST
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Well, if you are serious, maybe bruno-ken can help with the Japanese and the Mandarin, or at least know people who can help.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 05:54:19 AM EST
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Latin? The Vatican is at least sort of in the Eurozone, and opposition from them might actually make an impression on Blair...

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 08:52:17 AM EST
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