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Hard to see how you got to $6000 for one extraction and "a few" cavities.  Might want to shop around for a new dentist.

My dentist charges $80 for cleaning.  Had a tooth filled today.  $110 if I went amalgam or $180 if I wanted epoxy

Uh, I think you and Millman are making my point.  My dentist (or former dentist probably) is completely inline with the others.  Don't forget that I said this was for two people.  

I needed 4 fillings plus the extraction.  Only one filling was a deep one, but two were small ones on teeth that show, requiring the more expensive type of material so it' would look normal.  My then husband also had 4 or 5 fillings.

And you seem to be forgetting that if you've missed regular cleanings, you require x-rays and then what they call a "deep cleaning" where it takes 4 visits and they do it in quadrants.  Plus, I confess they had to give me the gas for the extraction...

Anyway, at almost 150 - 200 bucks a filling, plus the office visits, etc., it adds up.

It seems to me you're being somewhat cavalier about spending a minimum of $200 for a cleaning and one filling -- that's more than a lot of people can afford.  That's also regular maintenance prices when you go every 3 - 6 months.  Think how much that costs a year for people with kids, assuming absolutely nothing goes wrong with the kids' teeth.  

When your budget is tight, you might be tempted to skip a visit or two.  Then god help you when you're suddenly diagnosed with subprime teeth...

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes

by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 04:03:42 PM EST
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The prices aren't obscene, they are what I expect from professionally trained doctors. Lack of universal coverage is the issue.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 06:41:41 PM EST
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Oh, my apologies -- I didn't realize we were discussing pointless distinctions.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 09:52:47 PM EST
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We're in the wrong career, Izzy.

(Glad to see a diary from you though.)

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 08:56:43 AM EST
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It's not pointless - you mentioned cheaper dental care in Mexico that is pretty much as good. There is a reason that it's more expensive here that goes beyond extortion.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 12:55:37 PM EST
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Perhaps the prices are what you would expect but the point surely is that most people can't afford it?  I still don't see how it can be justified to charge so much.

I am incredibly lucky that I have never even needed a filling in my whole life. I had teeth pulled as a child due to an overcrowded mouth, and a brace - all free on the NHS. I pay £22 or thereabouts to get my teeth cleaned and checked at my NHS dentist (which when I was a student I couldn't afford and so didn't have my teeth checked for about 6 years.)

It's appalling that the system in America expects people to pay out so much to secure their health, either through direct costs accrued or through insurance.  When people can't afford it, health deteriorates - it costs the country more due to that in the long run.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 08:55:22 AM EST
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Pre 1940 in the UK knock on effects of Dental problems were the biggest killer of UK adults apart from Heart problems.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 10:08:47 AM EST
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Not insignificant.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 10:15:23 AM EST
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not trying to be cavalier.  but your 2nd description of your services --8 cleanings + 10ish fillings + 1 extraction + extras-- has a different look to it than your first description.  But it still looks OP by half unless that gas is brutally expensive.

$160/year for dental health checkups ($14.50/month) is hard to sell as a budget buster except for those deep in poverty already. Not middle class people in "nice suburbs".  That's about 2 trips to Starbucks.  Or dropping soccer fees.  Or half a cell phone.

Like any maintenance, if you let things go, the catch up is brutal.  I support single payer, but it's not like people with jobs won't be paying extra taxes to cover the cost.  It's still probably economic though.

by HiD on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 04:01:41 AM EST
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