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Looks like a neat camera... Rangefinder style !
I used to have a M6 Leica and still wonder why I sold it !!!!
Modern DSLR's are getting bigger and heavier everyday and I'm waiting patiently for a brand or another to get a full frame rangefinder !!!

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 01:02:22 PM EST
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I'm waiting for Nikon to bring out a full-frame DSLR that isn't the size of their pro bodies: there's no point me owning a D3 (even if I could justify the cost) because it's just too damn big and heavy to bring anywhere. The D70s size is ok, but even that gets left behind unless I've got a pretty good idea there's going to be opportunity for good shots. It'll be even less likely to come along for a while with a baby and associated paraphernalia.

The whole GR-D kit (without tripod or monopod) weighs just about a kilo and (except for the flash) fits into the pouch on the left.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 01:42:35 PM EST
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I agree, and wonder why after the OM1 (Olympus) the trend was to get big cameras ? I see many people that thinks a D200 is great only when it has the accessory that makes it look like a D2x ! (I know... Mine is bigger...)

Rumors do exist on a Nikon rangefinder (S or SP) with a D3 sort of sensor, as one of the heads of Nikon is a rangefinder groupie :-)
If Nikon brings out a D300 sized FX camera they'll kill the full DX range... Even if they have it they might keep it a few years !
There is also, in blueprints, a modular Nikon (think F3) for space, scientists, military... And maybe some photographers !!

I expected a M9 but Leica started a coslty upgrade system with the M8. And it ain't cheap either !

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 01:57:20 PM EST
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I never got into rangefinders, though I keep getting tempted even now (if I'm going to play with film it's going to be in some of our existing classic cameras, not another one I buy!). A reasonably priced Nikon one could possibly persuade me though!

A prosumer FX will mostly kill the high-end DX ones, but not the likes of the D40 - D50 type. I want my 20mm 2.8 to work as a bloody 20mm again, not a 35mm. I don't like 35mm on an SLR. I don't know why.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 02:01:44 PM EST
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Ah... I've been through that phase :-)
35mm on film is the "classical" view you get on every snapshot machine ! I like mine now because of the 1.5 factor...!

A great, unbreakable, multi-purpose camera would be the FM2n. You can find them used in a good pristine condition. Purely mechanical (1/4000th), the small battery is just for the metering, and if you're used to the sunny 16 you don't need it !

I've got two of them I keep from my film days and won't sell them as they work "at once" (just load film)! Factory spare parts are still there for 10 years !

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 02:10:52 PM EST
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Actually, I know why I don't like 35mm: not wide enough to be interesting or include environment properly and not long enough for a flattering portrait.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 02:15:28 PM EST
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We still have an Nikkormat FT-3, a Nikon EM, a Rolleiflex and a kit-built 4x5 view camera around here. I am not buying more film cameras - I had to stop myself rescuing an EM from the bargain bin in the camera shop recently. It was only €100 after all ...
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 02:19:02 PM EST
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The lovely old Rolleiflex...

We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. Oscar Wilde
by Sam on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 02:23:33 PM EST
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Except the one we inherited is a bit more battered and the meter doesn't work.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 02:25:00 PM EST
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This pic is starting my mouth to water! I love the TLRs.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 09:35:19 PM EST
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http://www.rollei.jp/e/pd/MiniD.html

Saw one of these recently in a camera shop here in DE, it had me drooling...

by gioele (gioele(daught)sandler(aaaattttt)gmail(daught)kom) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 07:23:19 AM EST
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That's hysterical! Though the joke fades at about the $500 mark!
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 07:31:11 AM EST
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My D40X isn't very big.

That's all I have. I'm bringing this on a year long trip, so there is no room for extra goodies anyway beyond a few extra batteries.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 03:29:22 PM EST
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The GR-D has the advantage that I can dump all except the camera itself and bung it into a pocket.

That's a neat kit though. How's the lens?

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 03:39:02 PM EST
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And Sam's R7 has a 28-200 zoom equivalent on it, so between the two kits we have reasonable quality 'sketch' photography covered.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 03:40:18 PM EST
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I love it. The lens covers everything I need. A fast 50mm lens would be nice but I can live without it and I'm still quite an amateur.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 03:47:17 PM EST
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You should be able to pick up a 50mm 1.8 AF for almost nothing second hand? It hardly weighs anything. Honest.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 03:53:09 PM EST
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I'm sure you're right, but space is at an ultra premium. I'm getting by on a 35L backpack and a camera shoulder bag that is going to have to hold things beyond camera gear.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 04:07:34 PM EST
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Bring one set of underwear less!
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 04:09:12 PM EST
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believe me, the list of stuff I am bringing with is already pretty short.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 04:40:54 PM EST
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By which I mean I've spent measurable time debating with myself on how many pairs of boxers go with me.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 07:59:15 PM EST
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Ah... Exactly my thoughts :-)
But then in such a case I don't take any...

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 08:04:26 PM EST
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There are practical limits to minimalism...

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 08:17:17 PM EST
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I still wonder why you sold it ...

The GR-D is an interesting little camera. There are two adaptors in that photo, one which gives me a 21mm FOV and one 40mm. The filters are a circular polariser (for reducing reflections from haze and water) and two ND filters which are to allow me use lower shutter speeds with wide apertures - one of the constraints on small sensor cameras is that diffraction starts reducing the sharpness of the lens at small apertures, so the GR-D is limited to f9. There's also an IR filter in there that I bought during the week and haven't had a chance to experiment with yet.

The quality of the lens is very, very good and the sensor isn't bad for what it is: I can get usable B&W shots from ISO800 in a camera that will fit in a jeans pocket.

The controls are nice too - there's a dial on the front for aperture control and a rocker on the back that can be used for shutter speed, manual focus that's usable, instant access to exposure compensation and quick access to things like changing ISO or focus mode. There's a nice macro mode too.

The hotshoe on top means that you can use optical viewfinders to frame the shots, which means, when combined with snap focus mode (preset to about 2.5m with huge depth of field), you can frame and shoot pictures very quickly for street or informal photography.

It also does some nice landscape work.

Lot's of constraints on it, of course, but I like constraints - they make it easier for me  to get good results because they impose a discipline upon what I'm doing.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 03:51:19 PM EST
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I've heard these compact small-sensor cameras compared to artist's sketchbooks. They allow you to take pictures when you normally wouldn't have a camera with you. Only a complete fanatic takes an SLR everywhere.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 03:55:49 PM EST
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LOL...!

Why am I out of phase with most here ? Each time I come in there's almost nobody and when I go elsewhere for a while there seems to have been a meeting in between... :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 07:03:15 PM EST
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Dissynchronicity - it's a well known phenomenon.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 07:07:54 PM EST
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Happens all the time.....

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 07:08:19 PM EST
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I must be in the Finnish time zone... Gee ! :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 07:20:48 PM EST
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I think we are in the same time zone. What's your excuse?

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 07:25:46 PM EST
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I have a weird Moomin family.... !

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 07:37:19 PM EST
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