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Clinton has run the worst campaign in modern memory. She has ploughed a 20% national lead into the ground.

Any book focusing on her in the 2008 Dem nominating process needs to be called The Worst and the Stupidest.

by ATinNM on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:51:31 PM EST
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That was Jonathon Alter's take: The worst campaign in modern American history. Really, if the roles were reversed, Obama would be gone, but the Clintons make for such a juicy story that the press won't let them die.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:54:56 PM EST
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This is the Clinton/DLC last hurrah ... so I understand why she is hanging in. But God help the Dems if she gets the nomination 'cuz she'll screw-up the Presidential election campaign in the same, and new & interesting, ways.

by ATinNM on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:03:38 PM EST
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She can't take the nomination without civil war in the party, at this point. Blacks have bailed on her, not only in the primaries, but a larger and larger share are now undecided in general election polls. Young people would walk. Losing those two groups makes November unwinnable.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:05:29 PM EST
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Unless she wins the nomination she's done as a national politician. Too many attacks on too many people.

I agree, if she wins the nomination she loses in November and is done as a national politician.

So, either way, she's done.

I don't know if the Clinton/DLC faction has realized that yet. I suspect not, given how clueless they've been in the nominating campaign.

by ATinNM on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:11:16 PM EST
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Well, either they don't realize it, or they're trying to wreck his chances in November. I know it's very tinfoil-hat of me, but I wouldn't put it past them.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:16:29 PM EST
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The Clintons are vindictive enough and they have the spinmeisters to put the message out there. But, really, who gives a damn what James Carville says?

The PLEOs aren't about to go down with the Good Ship Clinton and if Obama comes to Denver with the majority of delegates then he will get the nomination.

huh

Looking over this post I see I've concluded Obama is going to get the nod.

by ATinNM on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:22:06 PM EST
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Short of a career-ending mistake, he's going to walk into Denver with the most delegates.

I still think she's going to pay with the superdelegates for the Ferraro comment if Ferraro doesn't back off.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:24:48 PM EST
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What's interesting is Clinton has to go to Ferraro for find a surrogate. I mean ... jeez ... talk about Who Cares?

The only thing I can think of is Clinton is trying to incerase her take of the 40+ woman vote.

(Dinner time, back in a bit.)

by ATinNM on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:33:59 PM EST
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Nah - the Lady Macbeth thing is just too fun to watch.

I hope she continues. Trying to guess how far she'll go before the wheels fall off - it's like a soap opera, only interesting.

Well. Kind of interesting in a Liveleak kind of a way. ('Ooh - train wreck...')

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:58:54 PM EST
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Olbermann is doing one of his Special Comments tomorrow on the Clinton Campaign.

Now I'm really tempted to say it's over.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:01:31 PM EST
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Not over till the dumb lady quits.

Or something.

by ATinNM on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:05:52 PM EST
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Yes, but that's likely to be a pretty big blow given Olbermann's status among liberals.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:09:08 PM EST
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My pipe-dream is she continues to Denver, using all her chips to get there, and then lose.

I really want the Clintons to just. go. away.

(And with their little Chelsea too.)

by ATinNM on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:16:23 PM EST
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LOL

I was all for the "Hands-off Chelsea!" line until that nasty outburst she had at a student in Wisconsin. "Clairvoyance" and all that, you know.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:19:07 PM EST
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