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... on the Burning the Midnight Oil blog within a blog (which is ongoing, since the rules allow for talking in the comment thread days after the diary was posted, which would seem to be really scandalous behavior on dKos), for which a new edition appears two or three times a week.

It joins Burning the Midnight Oil for:

  • Living Energy Independence;
  • the Coalition Change Strategy;
  • Progressive Populism; and

  • Sensible Economics
... and probably one more irregular feature is on the way.

So, oh you scary "Federalizing Europe" which on one reading is being used as a bogey monster in the above essay (not the desired reading, but qualifiers on qualifiers can kill an essay, like they are killing the readability of this comment), what are the angles of the Arc of the Sun feature that most urgently need exploring?

  • rediscovering rural development in the Arc of the Sun
  • rediscovering urban development in the Arc of the Sun
  • actual trade promotion for fun, sustainability and profit
  • or ... uh, some brilliant idea you have that I write up and can play a genius on the Daily Kos (well, among the small hardy group willing to listen to progressive realism in the middle of Obamapalooza Fever).




I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Thu Mar 13th, 2008 at 04:14:22 AM EST
I really enjoyed the read, I love the idea of a blog becoming so huge that within it entire blogs can survive and thrive--making their connections across the threads while the big noises up top huff and puff...

But I never go to daily kos so I'm appreciating the ET spin off!

You asked the question so:

# rediscovering rural development in the Arc of the Sun

Definitely yes.  The US seems to be moving rapidly ahead in this, maybe because there is a lot of land around still; maybe because all y'all (see, I learn!)--but hey!  You're in Australia, did I get that right?  (And yeah with the qualifiers!)  I think clearly successful projects with a "what we learned" attached are blueprints for other communities; and I want lots of wonderful people growing food and building renewable energy sources and (for me funky please!) houses that grow with the surrounding land rather than being brick houses plonked on top!

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Thu Mar 13th, 2008 at 04:27:18 AM EST
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(I would love to read margouillat on the subject of "green housing" for example!  To give it a european perspective.)

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Thu Mar 13th, 2008 at 04:30:00 AM EST
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Not the Bazaar, wich is a variant of what we have, but more of the Karwan Saray or Caravanserai... :-)
I have a difficult end of the week and beginning of the other with tons of jurys and crying students... :-)

But you're right, this is important...!

(Now, why do I shiver each time the word "communities" is used ?) :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Thu Mar 13th, 2008 at 12:39:10 PM EST
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Communities?  Speuuujuuuit!

You'll have to remind me of your preferred word; I'm a (very very) slow learner!

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Thu Mar 13th, 2008 at 01:34:20 PM EST
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I don't have problem with words, and I'm used to it here :-)
I just find it funny that we all search for "modernity" in whatever form and still think in "tribes"... <raising eyes to the ceiling>

It relates, of course, with the "cultural barriers" diary :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Thu Mar 13th, 2008 at 01:44:48 PM EST
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... back in the US in time for the warm up act in 2006 for the current silliness going on in US politics.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Thu Mar 13th, 2008 at 07:12:08 AM EST
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I'm interested in rural development, but I don't see how it can in fact be envisaged without consideration of urban development too.

This is a great diary, Bruce, an original, revealing slice through the pie. I've been thinking more and more lately that we need to move forward with concrete proposals/projects, and that these must concern local development (in rich or poor regions) in sustainable agriculture and industry. This can be seen in contrast with the financial capitalism hoax-fest; in this diary, you succeed in opposing it to "whatever it is" that makes the US establish precinct stations around the globe and tell Europe they need to help fight for them.

Just one thing: when I gogole "arc of the sun" I don't find much beyond a link back here or to DK. Er, this may be semantic quibbling, but can you explain arc of the sun a bit for dummies?

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Mar 13th, 2008 at 07:17:27 AM EST
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... than the other way around, if we stay with the conventional pigeon holes of urban development as cities and big cities and rural development as productive countryside and small towns.

And, indeed, if looking for where to generate a positive cycle of growth between the two, the interaction between the countryside and market town is a good place to look for the bootstrap.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Thu Mar 13th, 2008 at 08:01:37 AM EST
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... longitude lifted off a globe, but holding its shape,  that part in the middle of the big arc of the whole world that lies between the Tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, that's the Arc of the Sun, where the sun is directly overhead at least once, and sometimes twice, a year.

Metaphorically, if you lay out a conventional Eurocentric map with the Atlantic Ocean in one piece and the Pacific Ocean split into two pieces at opposite ends, and you take the low-income and middle-income nations that lie wholly or partly inside the tropics, you get a big sweep of countries from China in the upper right through Southeast Asia and the ASEAN Archipelago through India and Southwest Asia and Africa and South America and the Caribbean and parts of North America and if you step back and squint, and especially if at its tallest stretch as it passes through Africa you kind of focus on Central Africa, its kinda like an arc.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sat Mar 22nd, 2008 at 04:56:02 PM EST
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OK, thanks. Did you invent the expression? (I'm still wondering why it doesn't come up in Google).
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Mar 22nd, 2008 at 05:04:00 PM EST
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... and elaborated it, but the elaboration is stuck in peer review (not the phrase as such, the balance trade institution policy).


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sat Mar 22nd, 2008 at 06:36:53 PM EST
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